From: Gao Xiang <hsiangkao@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>
Cc: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>,
Frank Sorenson <fsorenso@redhat.com>,
Jay Shin <jaeshin@redhat.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Wangkai <wangkai86@huawei.com>,
Colin Walters <walters@verbum.org>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] vfs: limit directory child dentry retention
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2026 17:54:01 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4184b060-2923-4722-9899-c85238b8e3eb@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260331-engste-raushalten-f66cd264ce77@brauner>
Hi,
On 2026/3/31 17:39, Christian Brauner wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2026 at 09:29:09AM +0800, Ian Kent wrote:
>> If there's a very large number of children present in a directory dentry
>> then the benifit from retaining stale child dentries for re-use can
>> become ineffective. Even hashed lookup can become ineffective as hash
>> chains grow, time taken to umount a file system can increase a lot, as
>> well as child dentry traversals resulting in lock held too long log
>> messages.
>
> Fwiw, there's also e6957c99dca5 ("vfs: Add a sysctl for automated deletion of dentry")
>
> This patch introduces the concept conditionally, where the associated
> dentry is deleted only when the user explicitly opts for it during file
> removal. A new sysctl fs.automated_deletion_of_dentry is added for this
> purpose. Its default value is set to 0.
>
> I have no massive objections to your approach. It feels a bit hacky tbh
> as it seems to degrade performance for new workloads in favor old
> workloads. The LRU should sort this out though.
JFYI, another issue we once observed on user workloads is that
`d_lockref.count` can exceed `int` on very very large
directories in reality (also combined with cached
negative dentries).
It can be a real overflow, this commit can help but it
doesn't strictly resolve this, anyway.
Thanks,
Gao Xiang
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-31 9:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-31 1:29 [RFC PATCH] Limit " Ian Kent
2026-03-31 1:29 ` [RFC PATCH] vfs: limit " Ian Kent
2026-03-31 9:39 ` Christian Brauner
2026-03-31 9:54 ` Gao Xiang [this message]
2026-03-31 14:59 ` Mateusz Guzik
2026-03-31 15:11 ` Gao Xiang
2026-04-01 1:38 ` Ian Kent
2026-04-01 1:47 ` Gao Xiang
2026-04-01 2:21 ` Ian Kent
2026-04-01 2:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-04-01 2:10 ` Ian Kent
2026-04-07 10:35 ` Christian Brauner
2026-04-07 12:41 ` Ian Kent
2026-04-08 10:17 ` Jan Kara
2026-04-09 0:59 ` Ian Kent
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