From: Carl-Daniel Hailfinger <c-d.hailfinger.devel.2005@gmx.net>
To: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
ncunningham@linuxmail.org,
ACPI List <acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume
Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 01:52:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <420418C7.5010309@gmx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e473391050204093837bc50d3@mail.gmail.com>
Jon Smirl schrieb:
> On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 08:44:54 +0100, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> wrote:
>
>>We already try to do that, but it hangs on 70% of machines. See
>>Documentation/power/video.txt.
>
> We know that all of these ROMs are run at power on so they have to
> work. This implies that there must be something wrong with the
> environment the ROM are being run in. Video ROMs make calls into the
> INT vectors of the system BIOS. If these haven't been set up yet
> running the VBIOS is sure to hang. Has someone with ROM source and
> the appropriate debugging tools tried to debug one of these hangs?
> Alternatively code could be added to wakeup.S to try and set these up
> or dump the ones that are there and see if they are sane.
My problem (Samsung P35) is that the BIOS wants to call code which
is no longer mapped because the BIOS is too big to fit into the
standard area. Since that additional area has been overwritten, we
are out of luck. Maybe if we did something like backing up all
untouched real mode memory immediately after switching to protected
mode, it could work. But I don't know whether that is feasible on
boot. Anyways, you don't want to run possibly buggy closed source
bios code in an environment where a single random memory write
may corrupt the kernel without debuggability.
And sometimes there is BIOS code which is can't be run twice.
Period.
Don't believe that one? I have a machine where calling EDD code
in the BIOS twice will hang the second time. See boot parameter
edd=off for reference :-(
So I agree that we could try to preserve the state better, but
I also can guarantee you it won't help everywhere.
Regards,
Carl-Daniel
--
http://www.hailfinger.org/
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2005-02-04 2:35 ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] Samsung P35, S3, black screen (radeon)) Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-04 2:51 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-02-04 7:18 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-04 7:44 ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-04 17:38 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-05 0:52 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger [this message]
2005-02-05 1:08 ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume Jon Smirl
2005-02-05 9:35 ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] Samsung P35, S3, black screen (radeon)) Pavel Machek
2005-02-05 11:35 ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume Ondrej Zary
2005-02-06 16:02 ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] Samsung P35, S3, black screen (radeon)) Alan Cox
2005-02-07 2:11 ` Adam Sulmicki
2005-02-07 14:27 ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume Paulo Marques
2005-02-07 14:36 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-07 15:39 ` Paulo Marques
2005-02-07 16:01 ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-07 16:20 ` Li-Ta Lo
2005-02-11 1:47 ` [ACPI] " Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-07 18:04 ` Adam Sulmicki
2005-02-07 16:39 ` Li-Ta Lo
2005-02-07 13:24 ` [ACPI] Re: [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] Samsung P35, S3, black screen (radeon)) Matthew Garrett
2005-02-07 14:09 ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-10 19:13 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-02-10 19:25 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-02-10 20:08 ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-10 20:17 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-10 20:29 ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-10 20:34 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-10 20:46 ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume Kendall Bennett
2005-02-10 21:06 ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-10 21:20 ` Kendall Bennett
2005-02-10 21:28 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-10 22:53 ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-11 1:41 ` [ACPI] " Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-10 20:32 ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] Samsung P35, S3, black screen (radeon)) Ville Syrjälä
2005-02-10 19:31 ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-10 23:03 ` Matan Ziv-Av
2005-02-07 19:27 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-07 20:59 ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-04 5:03 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-04 7:49 ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-04 12:17 ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-04 13:51 ` [ACPI] " Matthew Garrett
2005-02-04 16:30 ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-04 17:31 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-04 18:10 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-02-04 20:29 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-04 22:13 ` James Simmons
2005-02-04 21:56 ` James Simmons
2005-02-04 22:59 ` Legacy IO spaces (was Re: [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume) Jon Smirl
2005-02-04 23:34 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-02-05 0:48 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-05 22:42 ` [ACPI] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-02-06 0:17 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-06 0:07 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-06 0:19 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-02-05 2:04 ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume Matthew Garrett
2005-02-05 2:09 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-05 2:17 ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-05 2:30 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-05 8:15 ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-05 11:53 ` Ondrej Zary
2005-02-05 12:28 ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-05 15:47 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-05 16:48 ` [ACPI] " Stefan Dösinger
2005-02-05 17:38 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-06 11:05 ` Stefan Dösinger
2005-02-07 10:20 ` Helge Hafting
2005-02-07 14:22 ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-05 15:55 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-05 9:37 ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-05 9:49 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-02-05 15:49 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-04 22:09 ` James Simmons
2005-02-05 1:07 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-05 1:14 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-04 14:40 ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] Samsung P35, S3, black screen (radeon)) Xavier Bestel
2005-02-05 1:10 ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-04 7:48 ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] Samsung P35, S3, black screen (radeon)) Pavel Machek
2005-02-04 10:26 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-02-04 11:32 ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-04 12:11 ` [ACPI] " David Goodenough
2005-02-04 16:15 ` Pavel Machek
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2005-02-12 13:10 ` Bodo Eggert
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