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From: jmerkey@wolfmountaingroup.com
To: "Vivek Goyal" <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: "Andi Kleen" <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	"Keith Owens" <kaos@ocs.com.au>, "Jay Lan" <jlan@sgi.com>,
	"Christoph Lameter" <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Stefan Richter" <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>,
	"Nick Piggin" <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	jmerkey@wolfmountaingroup.com,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	"Josh Boyer" <jwboyer@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Takenori Nagano" <t-nagano@ah.jp.nec.com>,
	"Bernhard Walle" <bwalle@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:11:42 -0600 (MDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43117.166.70.238.45.1218460302.squirrel@webmail.wolfmountaingroup.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080811130256.GB28030@redhat.com>



I found a problem with APIC NMI support which seems to affect all the
debuggers, but appears machine specific -- at least I can reproduce it
with all of the modules MDB, KDB, and KGDB modules on my ACER 2410 dual
core laptop.  It explains the mysterious hangs I would see in KDB all the
time on SMP systems.

The call:

send_IPI_allbutself(vector)

will hard hang an on ACER laptop with dual core processors if issued while
any one of the processors are actively inside an INT 1 handler, then take
a SECOND NMI inside of this path, and nest.   It hangs the requesting
(focus) processor during nested interrupts if a target processor is A)
inside an INT 1 exception B) takes an NMI interrupt C) returns from the
NMI back into the INT1 D) receives a second NMI.

I am aware that a second NMI will not propagate to a processor currently
servicing an NMI until the processor sees an IRET instruction (at least
this is how intel worked years back).

I have not been able to reproduce it on the Xeon based motherboards.  I
have seen the APIC bus hang this way on my other OS project -- when the
APIC was programmed incorrectly, and assume it must be a bug in the APIC,
how the APIC is programmed by Linux, etc.

I am coding around the problem to prevent such convoluted nesting levels
in MDB (this was from testing) but this was the final test for enabling
SSB and all the fixes before I post and rc3 patch series which really
cleanup up the code, and there's a mystery with send_IPI_allbutself().

Jeff


  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-11 13:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-03 17:22 jmerkey
     [not found] ` <17494.166.70.238.46.1217784156.squirrel@webmail.wolfmountaingroup.com >
2008-08-03 19:36   ` jmerkey
2008-08-03 20:00     ` Rene Herman
2008-08-04  0:14     ` Josh Boyer
2008-08-04  2:19       ` jmerkey
2008-08-04 13:41         ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-04 14:33           ` jmerkey
2008-08-05  9:41             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-08-05 15:02               ` jmerkey
2008-08-05 15:33                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-05 15:19                   ` jmerkey
2008-08-05 15:45                     ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-05 15:32                       ` jmerkey
2008-08-05 16:38                         ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-05 16:45                           ` jmerkey
2008-08-06 19:47                           ` Rene Herman
2008-08-05 16:04                     ` Chris Friesen
2008-08-05 16:39                       ` jmerkey
2008-08-07 20:43                         ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-08-07 21:02                           ` jmerkey
2008-08-07 21:04                             ` jmerkey
2008-08-05 17:21                     ` Paul Mundt
2008-08-05 17:10                       ` jmerkey
2008-08-06  3:08                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-06  5:50                     ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-07 17:45                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-08-07 17:53                         ` jmerkey
2008-08-07 18:08                         ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-07 19:10                           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-08-07 19:47                             ` Jay Lan
2008-08-07 19:34                               ` jmerkey
2008-08-08  1:26                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-07 20:06                               ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-07 20:07                                 ` Bernhard Walle
2008-08-07 20:09                                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-07 20:11                                     ` Bernhard Walle
2008-08-07 22:28                                 ` Keith Owens
2008-08-08  1:15                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-08  2:29                                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-08 12:08                                       ` Cliff Wickman
2008-08-08 12:20                                         ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-08 13:19                                           ` jmerkey
2008-08-08 15:06                                           ` Cliff Wickman
2008-08-08 13:29                                       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-08 14:50                                         ` Cliff Wickman
2008-08-08 16:57                                           ` Jay Lan
2008-08-11 12:56                                           ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-08 18:03                                         ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-11 13:02                                           ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-11 13:11                                             ` jmerkey [this message]
2008-08-11 13:50                                               ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-11 16:16                                                 ` jmerkey
2008-08-18  9:12                                             ` Takenori Nagano
2008-08-08  8:40                         ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-06 13:11                     ` Bill Davidsen
2008-08-06 13:37                       ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-06 13:54                       ` Olivier Galibert
2008-08-06 13:45                         ` jmerkey
2008-08-06 14:16                       ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-06 17:21                     ` Jason Wessel
2008-08-06 18:57                       ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-07 12:45                         ` jmerkey
2008-08-07 15:17                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-07 16:07                           ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-07 15:52                             ` jmerkey
2008-08-07 17:04                               ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-08  0:28                           ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-11 10:36 ` jidong xiao

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