Re: what's next for the linux kernel?

[Joe Bob Spamtest <joebob@spamtest.viacore.net>]

Marc Perkel wrote:
> Right - that's Unix "inside the box" thinking. The idea is to make the 
> operating system smarter so that the user doesn't have to deal with 
> what's computer friendly - but reather what makes sense to the user. 
>  From a user's perspective if you have not rights to access a file then 
> why should you be allowed to delete it?

then that file shouldn't be in a directory owned by $otheruser.

> Now - the idea is to create choice. If you need to emulate Unix nehavior 
> for compatibility that's fine. But I would migrate away from that into a 
> permissions paradygme that worked like Netware.

the word is 'paradigm.' anyhow, through posix acls and selinux you can
achieve the behaviour you so love.

> I started with Netware and I'm spoiled. They had it right 15 years ago 
> and Linux isn't any where near what I was with Netware and DOS in 1990. 
> Once you've had this kind of permission power Linux is a real big step 
> down.

if you like netware so much, then fucking use it. nobody here will stop you.

> So - the thread is about the future so I say - time to fix Unix.

UNIX isn't broken. you're just not asking it to do the right things.