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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@infradead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [patch 00/15] Generic Mutex Subsystem
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 19:42:14 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43A985E6.CA9C600D@tv-sign.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0512191148460.4827@g5.osdl.org>

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> > > [ Oh.  I'm looking at the semaphore code, and I realize that we have a
> > >   "wake_up(&sem->wait)" in the __down() path because we had some race long
> > >   ago that we fixed by band-aiding over it. Which means that we wake up
> > >   sleepers that shouldn't be woken up. THAT may well be part of the
> > >   performance problem.. The semaphores are really meant to wake up just
> > >   one at a time, but because of that race hack they'll wake up _two_ at a
> > >   time - once by up(), once by down().
> > >
> > >   That also destroys the fairness. Does anybody remember why it's that
> > >   way? ]
> >
> > History?
> 
> Oh, absolutely, I already checked the old BK history too, and that extra
> wake_up() has been there at least since before we even started using BK.
> So it's very much historical, I'm just wondering if somebody remembers far
> enough back that we'd know.
> 
> I don't see why it's needed (since we re-try the "atomic_add_negative()"
> inside the semaphore wait lock, and any up() that saw contention should
> have always been guaranteed to do a wakeup that should fill the race in
> between that atomic_add_negative() and the thing going to sleep).
> 
> It may be that it is _purely_ historical, and simply isn't needed. That
> would be funny/sad, in the sense that we've had it there for years and
> years ;)

This does not look like it was added to fix a race or historical
to me. I think without that "wake_up" a waiter can miss wakeup
if it is not the only one sleeper.

sem->count == 0, ->sleepers == 0. down() decrements ->count,

__down:
	// ->count == -1

	++sleepers; // == 1

	for (;;) {
		->count += (->sleepers - 1); // does nothing
		if (->count >= 0) // NO
			break;

		->sleepers = 1;
		schedule();
	...

Another process calls down(), ->count == -2

__down:
	++sleepers; // == 2;

	for (;;) {
		->count += (->sleepers - 1) // ->count == -1;

		->sleepers = 1;
		schedule();
	...

up() makes ++->count == 0, and wakes one of them. It will see
->sleepers == 1, so atomic_add_negative(sleepers - 1) again
has no effect, sets ->sleepers == 0 and takes the semaphore.

Note that subsequent up() will not call wakeup(): ->count == 0,
it just increment it. That is why we are waking the next waiter
in advance. When it gets cpu, it will decrement ->count by 1,
because ->sleepers == 0. If up() (++->count) was already called,
it takes semaphore. If not - goes to sleep again.

Or my understanding is completely broken?

Oleg.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-21 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-19  1:34 Ingo Molnar
2005-12-19  4:22 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-19  4:28   ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-19  4:31     ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-19  6:24   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-19 12:56     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-19 16:55       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-19 15:50     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-19 19:11       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-19 19:25         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2005-12-19 19:55           ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-21 16:42             ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2006-01-10 10:28               ` Balbir Singh
2006-01-10 18:03                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-01-11  6:33                   ` Balbir Singh
2006-01-11  9:22                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2005-12-19 20:11           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-19 20:19             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2005-12-19 20:32             ` Russell King
2005-12-19 20:57               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-19 19:55         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-19 20:12           ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-19 23:37             ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-20  8:03             ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-20  8:06               ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-20  8:21                 ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-20  8:36                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-20  8:48                     ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-19 16:22   ` Ingo Molnar

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