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From: Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au>
To: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
Cc: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: -mm seems significanty slower than mainline on kernbench
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:54:30 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43C5A8C6.1040305@bigpond.net.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43C58117.9080706@bigpond.net.au>

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Peter Williams wrote:
> Con Kolivas wrote:
> 
>> On Wednesday 11 January 2006 23:24, Peter Williams wrote:
>>
>>> Martin J. Bligh wrote:
>>>
>>>> That seems broken to me ?
>>>
>>>
>>> But, yes, given that the problem goes away when the patch is removed
>>> (which we're still waiting to see) it's broken.  I think the problem is
>>> probably due to the changed metric (i.e. biased load instead of simple
>>> load) causing idle_balance() to fail more often (i.e. it decides to not
>>> bother moving any tasks more often than it otherwise would) which would
>>> explain the increased idle time being seen.  This means that the fix
>>> would be to review the criteria for deciding whether to move tasks in
>>> idle_balance().
>>
>>
>>
>> Look back on my implementation. The problem as I saw it was that one 
>> task alone with a biased load would suddenly make a runqueue look much 
>> busier than it was supposed to so I special cased the runqueue that 
>> had precisely one task.
> 
> 
> OK.  I'll look at that.

Addressed in a separate e-mail.

> 
> But I was thinking more about the code that (in the original) handled 
> the case where the number of tasks to be moved was less than 1 but more 
> than 0 (i.e. the cases where "imbalance" would have been reduced to zero 
> when divided by SCHED_LOAD_SCALE).  I think that I got that part wrong 
> and you can end up with a bias load to be moved which is less than any 
> of the bias_prio values for any queued tasks (in circumstances where the 
> original code would have rounded up to 1 and caused a move).  I think 
> that the way to handle this problem is to replace 1 with "average bias 
> prio" within that logic.  This would guarantee at least one task with a 
> bias_prio small enough to be moved.
> 
> I think that this analysis is a strong argument for my original patch 
> being the cause of the problem so I'll go ahead and generate a fix. I'll 
> try to have a patch available later this morning.

Attached is a patch that addresses this problem.  Unlike the description 
above it does not use "average bias prio" as that solution would be very 
complicated.  Instead it makes the assumption that NICE_TO_BIAS_PRIO(0) 
is a "good enough" for this purpose as this is highly likely to be the 
median bias prio and the median is probably better for this purpose than 
the average.

Signed-off-by: Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.com.au>

Peter
-- 
Peter Williams                                   pwil3058@bigpond.net.au

"Learning, n. The kind of ignorance distinguishing the studious."
  -- Ambrose Bierce

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Index: MM-2.6.X/kernel/sched.c
===================================================================
--- MM-2.6.X.orig/kernel/sched.c	2006-01-12 09:23:38.000000000 +1100
+++ MM-2.6.X/kernel/sched.c	2006-01-12 10:44:50.000000000 +1100
@@ -2116,11 +2116,11 @@ find_busiest_group(struct sched_domain *
 				(avg_load - this_load) * this->cpu_power)
 			/ SCHED_LOAD_SCALE;
 
-	if (*imbalance < SCHED_LOAD_SCALE) {
+	if (*imbalance < NICE_TO_BIAS_PRIO(0) * SCHED_LOAD_SCALE) {
 		unsigned long pwr_now = 0, pwr_move = 0;
 		unsigned long tmp;
 
-		if (max_load - this_load >= SCHED_LOAD_SCALE*2) {
+		if (max_load - this_load >= NICE_TO_BIAS_PRIO(0) * SCHED_LOAD_SCALE*2) {
 			*imbalance = NICE_TO_BIAS_PRIO(0);
 			return busiest;
 		}

  reply	other threads:[~2006-01-12  0:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-11  1:14 Martin Bligh
2006-01-11  1:31 ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-11  1:41   ` Martin Bligh
2006-01-11  1:48     ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-11  1:49     ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-11  2:38       ` Peter Williams
2006-01-11  3:07         ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-11  3:12           ` Martin Bligh
2006-01-11  3:40           ` Peter Williams
2006-01-11  3:49             ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-11  4:33               ` Peter Williams
2006-01-11  5:14             ` Peter Williams
2006-01-11  6:21               ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-01-11 12:24                 ` Peter Williams
2006-01-11 14:29                   ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-11 22:05                     ` Peter Williams
2006-01-12  0:54                       ` Peter Williams [this message]
2006-01-12  1:18                         ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-12  1:29                           ` Peter Williams
2006-01-12  1:36                             ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-12  2:23                               ` Peter Williams
2006-01-12  2:26                                 ` Martin Bligh
2006-01-12  6:39                                   ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-23 19:28                                     ` Martin Bligh
2006-01-24  1:25                                       ` Peter Williams
2006-01-24  3:50                                         ` Peter Williams
2006-01-24  4:41                                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-01-24  6:22                                             ` Peter Williams
2006-01-24  6:42                                               ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-01-28 23:20                                                 ` Peter Williams
2006-01-29  0:52                                                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-01-12  2:27                                 ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-12  2:04                           ` Martin Bligh
2006-01-12  6:35                             ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-01-12  6:41                               ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-12  6:54                                 ` Peter Williams
2006-01-12 18:39                         ` Martin Bligh
2006-01-12 20:03                           ` Peter Williams
2006-01-12 22:20                             ` Peter Williams
2006-01-13  7:06                               ` Peter Williams
2006-01-13 12:00                                 ` Peter Williams
2006-01-13 16:15                                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-01-13 16:26                                 ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-01-13 17:54                                   ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-01-13 20:41                                     ` Martin Bligh
2006-01-14  0:23                                       ` Peter Williams
2006-01-14  5:03                                         ` Nick Piggin
2006-01-14  5:40                                           ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-14  6:05                                             ` Nick Piggin
2006-01-14  5:53                                           ` Peter Williams
2006-01-14  6:13                                             ` Nick Piggin
2006-01-13 22:59                                     ` Peter Williams
2006-01-14 18:48                                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-01-15  0:05                                   ` Peter Williams
2006-01-15  2:04                                     ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-15  2:09                                     ` [PATCH] sched - remove unnecessary smpnice ifdefs Con Kolivas
2006-01-15  3:50                                     ` -mm seems significanty slower than mainline on kernbench Ingo Molnar
2006-01-12  1:25                       ` Peter Williams
2006-01-11  1:52     ` Andrew Morton

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