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From: Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Cc: "Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/18] cgroup/cpuset: Enable runtime modification of
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2025 12:27:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43af3cb0-3a8d-4ed4-9007-992475ba2844@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aJYcsXEiFmCmDAjz@localhost.localdomain>

On 8/8/25 11:50 AM, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> Le Fri, Aug 08, 2025 at 11:10:44AM -0400, Waiman Long a écrit :
>> The "nohz_full" and "rcu_nocbs" boot command parameters can be used to
>> remove a lot of kernel overhead on a specific set of isolated CPUs which
>> can be used to run some latency/bandwidth sensitive workloads with as
>> little kernel disturbance/noise as possible. The problem with this mode
>> of operation is the fact that it is a static configuration which cannot
>> be changed after boot to adjust for changes in application loading.
>>
>> There is always a desire to enable runtime modification of the number
>> of isolated CPUs that can be dedicated to this type of demanding
>> workloads. This patchset is an attempt to do just that with an amount of
>> CPU isolation close to what can be done with the nohz_full and rcu_nocbs
>> boot kernel parameters.
>>
>> This patch series provides the ability to change the set of housekeeping
>> CPUs at run time via the cpuset isolated partition functionality.
>> Currently, the cpuset isolated partition is able to disable scheduler
>> load balancing and the CPU affinity of the unbound workqueue to avoid the
>> isolated CPUs. This patch series will extend that with other kernel noises
>> associated with the nohz_full boot command line parameter which has the
>> following sub-categories:
>>    - tick
>>    - timer
>>    - RCU
>>    - MISC
>>    - WQ
>>    - kthread
> Thanks for working on that, I'm about to leave for 2 weeks vacation so I
> won't have the time to check this until I'm back.
>
> However this series is highly conflicting with mine (cpuset/isolation: Honour
> kthreads preferred affinity). Your patchset even redoes things I'm doing
> (housekeeping cpumask update, RCU synchronization, HK_TYPE_DOMAIN to include
> cpusets, etc...)
>
> I have a v2 that is almost ready to post.
>
> Wouldn't it be better to wait for it and its infrastructure changes before
> proceeding with nohz_full?

Sure. I am just posting this RFC patch series to show my current idea 
that I have. I will wait for your v2 and integrate on top.

Looking forward to your upcoming v2 patch.

Cheers,
Longman


      reply	other threads:[~2025-08-08 16:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-08 15:10 Waiman Long
2025-08-08 15:10 ` [RFC PATCH 01/18] sched/isolation: Enable runtime update of housekeeping cpumasks Waiman Long
2025-08-08 15:10 ` [RFC PATCH 02/18] sched/isolation: Call sched_tick_offload_init() when HK_FLAG_KERNEL_NOISE is first set Waiman Long
2025-08-08 15:10 ` [RFC PATCH 03/18] sched/isolation: Use RCU to delay successive housekeeping cpumask updates Waiman Long
2025-08-08 15:10 ` [RFC PATCH 04/18] sched/isolation: Add a debugfs file to dump housekeeping cpumasks Waiman Long
2025-08-08 15:10 ` [RFC PATCH 05/18] cpu/hotplug: Add a new cpuhp_offline_cb() API Waiman Long
2025-08-08 15:10 ` [RFC PATCH 06/18] cgroup/cpuset: Introduce a new top level isolcpus_update_mutex Waiman Long
2025-08-08 15:10 ` [RFC PATCH 07/18] cgroup/cpuset: Allow overwriting HK_TYPE_DOMAIN housekeeping cpumask Waiman Long
2025-08-08 15:10 ` [RFC PATCH 08/18] cgroup/cpuset: Use CPU hotplug to enable runtime nohz_full modification Waiman Long
2025-08-08 15:10 ` [RFC PATCH 09/18] cgroup/cpuset: Revert "Include isolated cpuset CPUs in cpu_is_isolated() check" Waiman Long
2025-08-08 15:19 ` [RFC PATCH 10/18] sched/core: Ignore DL BW deactivation error if in cpuhp_offline_cb_mode Waiman Long
2025-08-08 15:19 ` [RFC PATCH 11/18] tick/nohz: Make nohz_full parameter optional Waiman Long
2025-08-08 15:19 ` [RFC PATCH 12/18] tick/nohz: Introduce tick_nohz_full_update_cpus() to update tick_nohz_full_mask Waiman Long
2025-08-08 15:19 ` [RFC PATCH 13/18] tick/nohz: Allow runtime changes in full dynticks CPUs Waiman Long
2025-08-08 15:19 ` [RFC PATCH 14/18] tick: Pass timer tick job to an online HK CPU in tick_cpu_dying() Waiman Long
2025-08-08 15:19 ` [RFC PATCH 15/18] cgroup/cpuset: Enable RCU NO-CB CPU offloading of newly isolated CPUs Waiman Long
2025-08-08 15:19 ` [RFC PATCH 16/18] cgroup/cpuset: Don't set have_boot_nohz_full without any boot time nohz_full CPU Waiman Long
2025-08-08 15:20 ` [RFC PATCH 17/18] cgroup/cpuset: Documentation updates & don't use CPU 0 for isolated partition Waiman Long
2025-08-08 15:20 ` [RFC PATCH 18/18] cgroup/cpuset: Add pr_debug() statements for cpuhp_offline_cb() call Waiman Long
2025-08-08 15:50 ` [RFC PATCH 00/18] cgroup/cpuset: Enable runtime modification of Frederic Weisbecker
2025-08-08 16:27   ` Waiman Long [this message]

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