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From: Shailabh Nagar <nagar@watson.ibm.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Patch 2/8] Block I/O, swapin delays
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 10:21:24 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <442BF774.3010300@watson.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060329210340.570d63e5.akpm@osdl.org>

Andrew Morton wrote:

>Shailabh Nagar <nagar@watson.ibm.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>delayacct-blkio-swapin.patch
>>
>>Collect per-task block I/O delay statistics.
>>
>>Unlike earlier iterations of the delay accounting
>>patches, now delays are only collected for the actual
>>I/O waits rather than try and cover the delays seen in
>>I/O submission paths.
>>
>>Account separately for block I/O delays
>>incurred as a result of swapin page faults whose
>>frequency can be affected by the task/process' rss limit.
>>Hence swapin delays can act as feedback for rss limit changes
>>independent of I/O priority changes.
>>
>>..
>>
>>+#define PF_SWAPIN	0x02000000	/* I am doing a swap in */
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Is there really no sane alternative to doing it this way?
>  
>

I'm not sure there is. This goes back to what is really being measured 
as "block I/O delay".

Earlier iterations of the code tried to measure total block I/O delay 
including I/O submission
and the wait for completion:
    http://www.uwsg.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0602.3/0905.html
In that design, the swapin delay was being measured as time spent in the 
do_swap_page
function:
    http://www.uwsg.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0602.3/0906.html

However, Arjan pointed out the difficulties in trying to account for all 
I/O submission paths
so we reverted to measuring just the block I/O wait time within 
io_schedule/io_schedule_timeout.

Since these functions will be called as a result of do_swap_page, the 
only way to distinguish a
block I/O being done for a swapin vs. others was to mark the task struct 
in some way and
task->flags seemed like a convenient way to do it.

We could easily introduce and use a separate flag variable in the delay 
accounting structure itself if
using up another bit of task->flags is a concern ?

Or do you have doubts about the methodology of using a flag itself ? 
Don't see any other lightweight
way of doing this.

--Shailabh



  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-30 15:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-30  0:32 [Patch 0/8] per-task delay accounting Shailabh Nagar
2006-03-30  0:35 ` [Patch 1/8] Setup Shailabh Nagar
2006-03-30  5:03   ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-30 15:07     ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-03-30  0:37 ` [Patch 2/8] Block I/O, swapin delays Shailabh Nagar
2006-03-30  5:03   ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-30 15:21     ` Shailabh Nagar [this message]
2006-03-30  0:42 ` [Patch 3/8] cpu delays Shailabh Nagar
2006-03-30  5:03   ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-30 16:01     ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-03-30 16:00   ` Dave Hansen
2006-03-30 16:03     ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-03-30  0:48 ` [Patch 4/8] generic netlink utility functions Shailabh Nagar
2006-03-30  0:52 ` [Patch 5/8] generic netlink interface for delay accounting Shailabh Nagar
2006-03-30  5:04   ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-30  6:10     ` Balbir Singh
2006-03-30  6:26       ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-30  6:29         ` Balbir Singh
2006-03-30 16:24       ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-03-30  0:54 ` [Patch 6/8] virtual cpu run time Shailabh Nagar
2006-03-30  5:04   ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-30 16:10     ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-03-30  0:56 ` [Patch 7/8] proc interface for block I/O delays Shailabh Nagar
2006-03-30  5:04   ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-30  0:59 ` [Patch 8/8] documentation, userspace utility Shailabh Nagar
2006-03-30  5:03 ` [Patch 0/8] per-task delay accounting Andrew Morton
2006-03-30  6:23   ` Balbir Singh
2006-03-30  6:47     ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-30  9:55       ` Paul Jackson
2006-03-30 13:23       ` [Lse-tech] " Dipankar Sarma
2006-03-30 17:23       ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-03-31  2:54         ` Peter Chubb
2006-03-31  5:27           ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-03-31  8:17             ` Peter Chubb
2006-03-31 16:03               ` Shailabh Nagar
     [not found]       ` <442CCF54.3000501@watson.ibm.com>
2006-03-31  7:31         ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2006-03-31 17:01           ` Shailabh Nagar
     [not found]         ` <442D8E39.8080606@engr.sgi.com>
     [not found]           ` <442DED81.5060009@engr.sgi.com>
2006-04-10 17:15             ` Jay Lan
2006-04-10 21:44               ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-04-10 22:33                 ` [Lse-tech] " Jay Lan

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