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From: "Stephan Müller" <smueller@chronox.de>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
Cc: Kukjin Kim <kgene@kernel.org>,
	Javier Martinez Canillas <javier@osg.samsung.com>,
	Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <b.zolnierkie@samsung.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] crypto: hw_random - Add new Exynos RNG driver
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017 23:25:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4479175.Jfq03yCxQW@tauon.atsec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170326180012.3eic4bt2p6h6u3nh@kozik-lap>

Am Sonntag, 26. März 2017, 20:00:12 CEST schrieb Krzysztof Kozlowski:

Hi Krzysztof,

> > Would it make sense to add another outer loop here to allow all of slen to
> > be injected into the DRNG? Note, in some cases, a user wants to add more
> > seed into the DRNG than the actual seed size. In this case, the DRNG acts
> > as a compression operation of entropy. This is used when the
> > entropy-to-data ratio is not 1:1. In a lot of cases, users have a seed
> > which has less entropy in bits per data bit.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I do not know whether this would have any benefit on hardware. The
> datasheet is not describing too much here. It is actually saying only:
> 1. Write SEED to each register (five in total).
> 2. Confirm that STATUS register says seeding done.
> 3. Start RNG engine.
> 4. Wait for engine finish (another bit in STATUS - clear it then).
> 5. Read the randoms.
> 
> I would guess that the hardware will ignore all previously written seeds
> and use the last one. Maybe the hardware will use all of the seeds
> written as you imply. It is just a guessing.

Oh my, if you are right with your first guess, this is a bad DRNG design.

Just out of curiousity: what happens if a caller invokes the seed function 
twice or more times (each time with the sufficient amount of bits)? What is 
your guess here?

Ciao
Stephan

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-26 21:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-25 16:26 [PATCH v3 0/3] " Krzysztof Kozlowski
2017-03-25 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] " Krzysztof Kozlowski
2017-03-26 15:20   ` PrasannaKumar Muralidharan
2017-03-26 16:01     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2017-03-26 16:05       ` Stephan Müller
2017-03-26 16:46       ` PrasannaKumar Muralidharan
2017-03-26 17:05         ` Stephan Müller
2017-03-26 18:09           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2017-03-26 17:11   ` Stephan Müller
2017-03-26 18:00     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2017-03-26 21:25       ` Stephan Müller [this message]
2017-03-27  4:23         ` PrasannaKumar Muralidharan
2017-03-27 13:53           ` Stephan Müller
2017-03-28 16:48             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2017-03-28 17:41               ` Stephan Müller
2017-03-28 17:43                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2017-03-25 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] ARM: exynos_defconfig: Enable Exynos RNG and user-space crypto API Krzysztof Kozlowski
2017-03-25 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] ARM: multi_v7_defconfig: " Krzysztof Kozlowski
2017-03-25 16:32 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] crypto: hw_random - Add new Exynos RNG driver Stephan Müller

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