From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/7] KVM: TDX: Add TSX_CTRL msr into uret_msrs list
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:51:22 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44c67438cf3b2b1ce63dbc8f21fef18614805ed8.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a005d50c-6ca8-4572-80ba-5207b95323fb@intel.com>
On Wed, 2024-12-04 at 23:33 +0800, Xiaoyao Li wrote:
> >
>
> There were discussion[1] on whether KVM to gatekeep the
> configurable/supported CPUIDs for TDX. I stand by Sean that KVM needs to
> do so.
>
> Regarding KVM opt in the new feature, KVM gatekeeps the CPUID bit that
> can be set by userspace is exactly the behavior of opt-in. i.e., for a
> given KVM, it only allows a CPUID set {S} to be configured by userspace,
> if new TDX module supports new feature X, it needs KVM to opt-in X by
> adding X to {S} so that X is allowed to be configured by userspace.
>
> Besides, I find current interface between KVM and userspace lacks the
> ability to tell userspace what bits are not supported by KVM.
> KVM_TDX_CAPABILITIES.cpuid doesn't work because it represents the
> configurable CPUIDs, not supported CPUIDs (I think we might rename it to
> configurable_cpuid to better reflect its meaning). So userspace has to
> hardcode that TSX and WAITPKG is not support itself.
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/ZuM12EFbOXmpHHVQ@google.com/
I mean, this is kind of a good example for why we might want to go back to
filtering CPUID bits. It kind of depends on how KVM wants to treat the TDX
module. Hostile like userspace, or more trusting. KVM maintaining code to let
the TDX module evolve unsafely would be unfortunate though.
If we keep the current approach, it probably would be educational to highlight
this example to the TDX module team. "Don't do this or you will have a bug on
your side".
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-04 23:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-21 20:14 [PATCH 0/7] KVM: TDX: TD vcpu enter/exit Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH RFC 1/7] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrapper to enter/exit TDX guest Adrian Hunter
2024-11-22 11:10 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-22 16:33 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-25 13:40 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-28 11:13 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-04 15:58 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-11 18:43 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-13 15:45 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-13 16:16 ` Dave Hansen
2024-12-13 16:30 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-13 16:44 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-22 16:26 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-22 17:29 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-11-25 13:43 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 2/7] KVM: TDX: Implement TDX vcpu enter/exit path Adrian Hunter
2024-11-22 5:23 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-11-22 5:56 ` Binbin Wu
2024-11-22 14:33 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-28 5:56 ` Yan Zhao
2024-11-28 6:26 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 3/7] KVM: TDX: vcpu_run: save/restore host state(host kernel gs) Adrian Hunter
2024-11-25 14:12 ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-11-26 16:15 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 4/7] KVM: TDX: restore host xsave state when exit from the guest TD Adrian Hunter
2024-11-22 5:49 ` Chao Gao
2024-11-25 11:10 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-26 2:20 ` Chao Gao
2024-11-28 6:50 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-02 2:52 ` Chao Gao
2024-12-02 6:36 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-17 16:09 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-20 15:22 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-20 16:22 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-20 21:24 ` PKEY syscall number for selftest? (was: [PATCH 4/7] KVM: TDX: restore host xsave state when exit from the guest TD) Sean Christopherson
2025-01-27 17:09 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-03 18:16 ` [PATCH 4/7] KVM: TDX: restore host xsave state when exit from the guest TD Adrian Hunter
2025-01-09 19:11 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-10 14:50 ` Adrian Hunter
2025-01-10 17:30 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-14 20:04 ` Adrian Hunter
2025-01-15 2:28 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-13 19:28 ` Adrian Hunter
2025-01-13 23:47 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-25 11:34 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 5/7] KVM: x86: Allow to update cached values in kvm_user_return_msrs w/o wrmsr Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 6/7] KVM: TDX: restore user ret MSRs Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 7/7] KVM: TDX: Add TSX_CTRL msr into uret_msrs list Adrian Hunter
2024-11-22 3:27 ` Chao Gao
2024-11-27 14:00 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-29 11:39 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-02 19:07 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-02 19:24 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-12-03 0:34 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-03 17:34 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-12-03 19:17 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-04 1:25 ` Chao Gao
2024-12-04 6:18 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-04 6:37 ` Chao Gao
2024-12-04 6:57 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-04 11:13 ` Chao Gao
2024-12-04 11:55 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-04 15:33 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-12-04 23:51 ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2024-12-05 17:31 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-06 3:37 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-12-06 14:40 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-09 2:46 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-12-09 7:08 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-10 2:45 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-12-04 23:40 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-11-25 1:25 ` [PATCH 0/7] KVM: TDX: TD vcpu enter/exit Binbin Wu
2024-11-25 15:19 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-25 19:50 ` Huang, Kai
2024-11-25 22:51 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-26 1:43 ` Huang, Kai
2024-11-26 1:44 ` Binbin Wu
2024-11-26 3:52 ` Huang, Kai
2024-11-26 5:29 ` Binbin Wu
2024-11-26 5:37 ` Huang, Kai
2024-11-26 21:41 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-10 18:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
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