From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
To: "seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/7] KVM: TDX: Add TSX_CTRL msr into uret_msrs list
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2024 17:34:50 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <60e2ed472e03834c13a48e774dc9f006eda92bf5.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z05SK2OxASuznmPq@google.com>
On Mon, 2024-12-02 at 16:34 -0800, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > Small point - the last conversation[0] we had on this was to let *userspace*
> > ensure consistency between KVM's CPUID (i.e. KVM_SET_CPUID2) and the TDX
> > Module's view.
>
> I'm all for that, right up until KVM needs to protect itself again userspace
> and
> flawed TDX architecture. A relevant comment I made in that thread:
>
> : If the upgrade breaks a setup because it confuses _KVM_, then I'll care
>
> As it applies here, letting vCPU CPUID and actual guest functionality diverge
> for
> features that KVM cares about _will_ cause problems.
Right, just wanted to make sure we don't need to re-open the major design.
>
> This will be less ugly to handle once kvm_vcpu_arch.cpu_caps is a thing. KVM
> can simply force set/clear bits to match the actual guest functionality that's
> hardcoded by the TDX Module or defined by TDPARAMS.
>
> > So the configuration goes:
> > 1. Userspace configures per-VM CPU features
> > 2. Userspace gets TDX Module's final per-vCPU version of CPUID configuration
> > via
> > KVM API
> > 3. Userspace calls KVM_SET_CPUID2 with the merge of TDX Module's version,
> > and
> > userspace's desired values for KVM "owned" CPUID leads (pv features, etc)
> >
> > But KVM's knowledge of CPUID bits still remains per-vcpu for TDX in any
> > case.
> >
> > >
> > > - Don't hardcode fixed/required CPUID values in KVM, use available
> > > metadata
> > > from TDX Module to reject "bad" guest CPUID (or let the TDX module
> > > reject?).
> > > I.e. don't let a guest silently run with a CPUID that diverges from
> > > what
> > > userspace provided.
> >
> > The latest QEMU patches have this fixed bit data hardcoded in QEMU. Then the
> > long term solution is to make the TDX module return this data. Xiaoyao will
> > post
> > a proposal on how the TDX module should expose this soon.
>
> Punting the "merge" to userspace is fine, but KVM still needs to ensure it
> doesn't
> have holes where userspace can attack the kernel by lying about what features
> the
> guest has access to. And that means forcing bits in kvm_vcpu_arch.cpu_caps;
> anything else is just asking for problems.
Ok, then for now let's just address them on a case-by-case basis for logic that
protects KVM. I'll add to look at using kvm_vcpu_arch.cpu_caps to our future-
things todo list.
I think Adrian is going post a proposal for how to handle this case better.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-03 17:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-21 20:14 [PATCH 0/7] KVM: TDX: TD vcpu enter/exit Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH RFC 1/7] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrapper to enter/exit TDX guest Adrian Hunter
2024-11-22 11:10 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-22 16:33 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-25 13:40 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-28 11:13 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-04 15:58 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-11 18:43 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-13 15:45 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-13 16:16 ` Dave Hansen
2024-12-13 16:30 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-13 16:44 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-22 16:26 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-22 17:29 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-11-25 13:43 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 2/7] KVM: TDX: Implement TDX vcpu enter/exit path Adrian Hunter
2024-11-22 5:23 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-11-22 5:56 ` Binbin Wu
2024-11-22 14:33 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-28 5:56 ` Yan Zhao
2024-11-28 6:26 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 3/7] KVM: TDX: vcpu_run: save/restore host state(host kernel gs) Adrian Hunter
2024-11-25 14:12 ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-11-26 16:15 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 4/7] KVM: TDX: restore host xsave state when exit from the guest TD Adrian Hunter
2024-11-22 5:49 ` Chao Gao
2024-11-25 11:10 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-26 2:20 ` Chao Gao
2024-11-28 6:50 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-02 2:52 ` Chao Gao
2024-12-02 6:36 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-17 16:09 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-20 15:22 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-20 16:22 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-20 21:24 ` PKEY syscall number for selftest? (was: [PATCH 4/7] KVM: TDX: restore host xsave state when exit from the guest TD) Sean Christopherson
2025-01-27 17:09 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-03 18:16 ` [PATCH 4/7] KVM: TDX: restore host xsave state when exit from the guest TD Adrian Hunter
2025-01-09 19:11 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-10 14:50 ` Adrian Hunter
2025-01-10 17:30 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-14 20:04 ` Adrian Hunter
2025-01-15 2:28 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-13 19:28 ` Adrian Hunter
2025-01-13 23:47 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-25 11:34 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 5/7] KVM: x86: Allow to update cached values in kvm_user_return_msrs w/o wrmsr Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 6/7] KVM: TDX: restore user ret MSRs Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 7/7] KVM: TDX: Add TSX_CTRL msr into uret_msrs list Adrian Hunter
2024-11-22 3:27 ` Chao Gao
2024-11-27 14:00 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-29 11:39 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-02 19:07 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-02 19:24 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-12-03 0:34 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-03 17:34 ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2024-12-03 19:17 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-04 1:25 ` Chao Gao
2024-12-04 6:18 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-04 6:37 ` Chao Gao
2024-12-04 6:57 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-04 11:13 ` Chao Gao
2024-12-04 11:55 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-04 15:33 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-12-04 23:51 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-12-05 17:31 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-06 3:37 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-12-06 14:40 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-09 2:46 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-12-09 7:08 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-10 2:45 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-12-04 23:40 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-11-25 1:25 ` [PATCH 0/7] KVM: TDX: TD vcpu enter/exit Binbin Wu
2024-11-25 15:19 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-25 19:50 ` Huang, Kai
2024-11-25 22:51 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-26 1:43 ` Huang, Kai
2024-11-26 1:44 ` Binbin Wu
2024-11-26 3:52 ` Huang, Kai
2024-11-26 5:29 ` Binbin Wu
2024-11-26 5:37 ` Huang, Kai
2024-11-26 21:41 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-10 18:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
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