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From: Ben Horgan <ben.horgan@arm.com>
To: "Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)" <tan.shaopeng@fujitsu.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 23/29] arm_mpam: Add mpam_msmon_read() to read monitor value
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2025 10:01:27 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44ce4a5b-b210-4fd0-9676-51173d5f5b8c@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OSZPR01MB8798EEEF42B16AD8F35DE8EE8BC3A@OSZPR01MB8798.jpnprd01.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Shaopeng,

On 11/7/25 05:01, Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu) wrote:
> Hi Ben,
> 
>> Hi Shaopeng,
>>
>> On 11/5/25 08:32, Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu) wrote:
>>> Hello James,
>>>
>>>> Reading a monitor involves configuring what you want to monitor, and
>>>> reading the value. Components made up of multiple MSC may need values
>>>> from each MSC. MSCs may take time to configure, returning 'not ready'.
>>>> The maximum 'not ready' time should have been provided by firmware.
>>>>
>>>> Add mpam_msmon_read() to hide all this. If (one of) the MSC returns
>>>> not ready, then wait the full timeout value before trying again.
>>>>
>>>> CC: Shanker Donthineni <sdonthineni@nvidia.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
>> [...]
>>>> +/* Call with MSC lock held */
>>>> +static void __ris_msmon_read(void *arg) {
>>>> +	u64 now;
>>>> +	bool nrdy = false;
>>>> +	struct mon_read *m = arg;
>>>> +	struct mon_cfg *ctx = m->ctx;
>>>> +	struct mpam_msc_ris *ris = m->ris;
>>>> +	struct mpam_props *rprops = &ris->props;
>>>> +	struct mpam_msc *msc = m->ris->vmsc->msc;
>>>> +	u32 mon_sel, ctl_val, flt_val, cur_ctl, cur_flt;
>>>> +
>>>> +	if (!mpam_mon_sel_lock(msc)) {
>>>> +		m->err = -EIO;
>>>> +		return;
>>>> +	}
>>>> +	mon_sel = FIELD_PREP(MSMON_CFG_MON_SEL_MON_SEL,
>>>> ctx->mon) |
>>>> +		  FIELD_PREP(MSMON_CFG_MON_SEL_RIS, ris->ris_idx);
>>>> +	mpam_write_monsel_reg(msc, CFG_MON_SEL, mon_sel);
>>>> +
>>>> +	/*
>>>> +	 * Read the existing configuration to avoid re-writing the same values.
>>>> +	 * This saves waiting for 'nrdy' on subsequent reads.
>>>> +	 */
>>>> +	read_msmon_ctl_flt_vals(m, &cur_ctl, &cur_flt);
>>>> +	clean_msmon_ctl_val(&cur_ctl);
>>>> +	gen_msmon_ctl_flt_vals(m, &ctl_val, &flt_val);
>>>> +	if (cur_flt != flt_val || cur_ctl != (ctl_val | MSMON_CFG_x_CTL_EN))
>>>> +		write_msmon_ctl_flt_vals(m, ctl_val, flt_val);
>>>
>>> When reading the CSU counter of a different control group, the counter is
>> cleared to 0 by the write_msmon_ctl_flt_vals().
>>>
>>>> +	switch (m->type) {
>>>> +	case mpam_feat_msmon_csu:
>>>> +		now = mpam_read_monsel_reg(msc, CSU);
>>>> +		if (mpam_has_feature(mpam_feat_msmon_csu_hw_nrdy,
>>>> rprops))
>>>> +			nrdy = now & MSMON___NRDY;
>>>> +		break;
>>>
>>> The first time read the counter(MSMON_CSU), all bits except nrdy are 0.
>>
>>
>> I'm trying to understand your problem. Isn't what you are describing the
>> intended behaviour of the nrdy bit? It takes some time to get a count of the
>> cache utilization so if it's not ready this is set and the driver retries.
> 
> I apologize for not explain it correctly.
> The key point is that for some SOC chip, if `mpam_feat_msmon_csu_hw_nrdy` is false,
> the NRDY bit value of counter(MSMON_CSU) cannot be set to 'nrdy'.
> 'nrdy' will keep its initial value(false).

Ok, so if I understand correctly, your hardware takes some time to
generate the csu monitor value but doesn't have a hardware control of
the nrdy bit to mark the value as unreliable. When this bit is under
software control then the behaviour is implementation defined. Some what
wierdly the spec says "If a monitor does not support automatic behavior
of NRDY, software can use this bit for any purpose.". I would expect a
quirk for your platform could be added to delay after CSU configuration
but this is out of scope for this series.


> 
>>> This means when check the cache monitoring value the first time, cat
>>> mon_data/mon_L3_0*/llc_occupancy the result will be 0.
>>> From the second time, the result will return to normal.
>>
>> This is not expected. On creating a new ctrl_mon group, generating some
>> memory traffic and checking the llc_occumpancy I see a non-zero value on my
>> setup. Not sure why you wouldn't.
> 
> Best regards,
> Shaopeng TAN
> 

Thanks,

Ben


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-07 10:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-17 18:56 [PATCH v3 00/29] arm_mpam: Add basic mpam driver James Morse
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 01/29] ACPI / PPTT: Add a helper to fill a cpumask from a processor container James Morse
2025-10-24 11:26   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-11-06 16:09     ` Ben Horgan
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 02/29] ACPI / PPTT: Stop acpi_count_levels() expecting callers to clear levels James Morse
2025-10-24 11:29   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-11-06 16:10     ` Ben Horgan
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 03/29] ACPI / PPTT: Find cache level by cache-id James Morse
2025-10-20 10:34   ` Ben Horgan
2025-10-24 14:15   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 04/29] ACPI / PPTT: Add a helper to fill a cpumask from a cache_id James Morse
2025-10-20 10:45   ` Ben Horgan
2025-10-22 12:58   ` Jeremy Linton
2025-10-24 14:22     ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-11-06 16:18       ` Ben Horgan
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 05/29] arm64: kconfig: Add Kconfig entry for MPAM James Morse
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 06/29] ACPI / MPAM: Parse the MPAM table James Morse
2025-10-20 12:29   ` Ben Horgan
2025-10-24 16:13   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-11-06 16:55     ` Ben Horgan
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 07/29] arm_mpam: Add probe/remove for mpam msc driver and kbuild boiler plate James Morse
2025-10-20 12:43   ` Ben Horgan
2025-10-20 15:44   ` Ben Horgan
2025-10-21  9:51   ` Ben Horgan
2025-10-22  0:29   ` Fenghua Yu
2025-10-22 19:00     ` Tushar Dave
2025-10-24 16:25   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-11-06 17:48   ` Markus Elfring
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 08/29] arm_mpam: Add the class and component structures for firmware described ris James Morse
2025-10-24 16:47   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-11-06 17:43     ` Ben Horgan
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 09/29] arm_mpam: Add MPAM MSC register layout definitions James Morse
2025-10-17 23:03   ` Fenghua Yu
2025-10-24 17:32   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-27 16:33     ` Ben Horgan
2025-10-29  6:37   ` Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 10/29] arm_mpam: Add cpuhp callbacks to probe MSC hardware James Morse
2025-10-29  7:24   ` Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 11/29] arm_mpam: Probe hardware to find the supported partid/pmg values James Morse
2025-10-24 17:40   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 12/29] arm_mpam: Add helpers for managing the locking around the mon_sel registers James Morse
2025-10-24 17:43   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 13/29] arm_mpam: Probe the hardware features resctrl supports James Morse
2025-10-24 17:47   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 14/29] arm_mpam: Merge supported features during mpam_enable() into mpam_class James Morse
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 15/29] arm_mpam: Reset MSC controls from cpuhp callbacks James Morse
2025-10-24 17:52   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-29  6:53   ` Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 16/29] arm_mpam: Add a helper to touch an MSC from any CPU James Morse
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 17/29] arm_mpam: Extend reset logic to allow devices to be reset any time James Morse
2025-10-20 15:14   ` Ben Horgan
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 18/29] arm_mpam: Register and enable IRQs James Morse
2025-10-24 18:03   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-29  7:02   ` Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 19/29] arm_mpam: Use a static key to indicate when mpam is enabled James Morse
2025-10-20 16:28   ` Ben Horgan
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 20/29] arm_mpam: Allow configuration to be applied and restored during cpu online James Morse
2025-10-20 17:04   ` Ben Horgan
2025-10-27  8:47   ` Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2025-11-05 16:16     ` Peter Newman
2025-11-06 10:11       ` Ben Horgan
2025-10-29  7:09   ` Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 21/29] arm_mpam: Probe and reset the rest of the features James Morse
2025-10-20 17:16   ` Ben Horgan
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 22/29] arm_mpam: Add helpers to allocate monitors James Morse
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 23/29] arm_mpam: Add mpam_msmon_read() to read monitor value James Morse
2025-10-24 18:18   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-11-05  8:32   ` Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2025-11-05 12:11     ` Ben Horgan
2025-11-07  5:01       ` Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2025-11-07 10:01         ` Ben Horgan [this message]
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 24/29] arm_mpam: Track bandwidth counter state for overflow and power management James Morse
2025-10-22 13:39   ` [PATCH mpam mpam/snapshot/v6.14-rc1] arm64/mpam: Fix MBWU monitor overflow handling Zeng Heng
2025-10-22 16:17     ` Ben Horgan
2025-10-25  8:45       ` Zeng Heng
2025-10-25  9:34         ` [PATCH] arm64/mpam: Clean MBWU monitor overflow bit Zeng Heng
2025-10-28 17:37           ` Ben Horgan
2025-10-28 17:04         ` [PATCH mpam mpam/snapshot/v6.14-rc1] arm64/mpam: Fix MBWU monitor overflow handling Ben Horgan
2025-10-25  9:01       ` Zeng Heng
2025-10-28 16:01         ` Ben Horgan
2025-10-29  2:49           ` Zeng Heng
2025-10-29  3:59             ` Zeng Heng
2025-10-24 18:22   ` [PATCH v3 24/29] arm_mpam: Track bandwidth counter state for overflow and power management Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-29  7:56   ` [PATCH v2] arm64/mpam: Clean MBWU monitor overflow bit Zeng Heng
2025-10-30  9:52     ` Ben Horgan
2025-11-03  3:47       ` Zeng Heng
2025-11-04 10:24         ` Ben Horgan
2025-11-04 13:48           ` Zeng Heng
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 25/29] arm_mpam: Probe for long/lwd mbwu counters James Morse
2025-10-22 11:23   ` Ben Horgan
2025-10-24 18:24   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 26/29] arm_mpam: Use long MBWU counters if supported James Morse
2025-10-22 12:31   ` Ben Horgan
2025-10-24 18:29   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-11-06 15:18   ` Peter Newman
2025-11-06 15:43     ` Ben Horgan
2025-11-06 16:15   ` Peter Newman
2025-11-06 16:41     ` Ben Horgan
2025-11-07 10:30       ` Peter Newman
2025-11-07 10:53         ` Ben Horgan
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 27/29] arm_mpam: Add helper to reset saved mbwu state James Morse
2025-10-24 18:34   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-29  7:14   ` Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 28/29] arm_mpam: Add kunit test for bitmap reset James Morse
2025-10-17 18:56 ` [PATCH v3 29/29] arm_mpam: Add kunit tests for props_mismatch() James Morse
2025-10-18  1:01 ` [PATCH v3 00/29] arm_mpam: Add basic mpam driver Fenghua Yu
2025-10-23  8:15 ` Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2025-11-05  9:39 ` Peter Newman

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