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From: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
To: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Subject: ieee1394 in 2.6.20-rc1 (was Re: Linux 2.6.20-rc1)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 18:48:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45818E6E.8020505@s5r6.in-berlin.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200612140036.46083.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 December 2006 22:32, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>>On Wed, 13 Dec 2006, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> Ok, one not so silly Q (IMO) from the resident old fart.  I saw,
>>> sometime in the past week, a relatively huge ieee1394 update go by. 
>>> And I have some issues with the present 2.6.19 version causeing
>>> segfaults and kino go-aways when trying to capture from my firewire
>>> movie camera.  Problems occur when trying to control the camera from
>>> kino.
>>>
>>> Is this patchset in this -rc1?  If it is, I'll see if I can get a
>>> build to work and check it out.

This time everything which was in linux1394-2.6.git before the post
2.6.19 merge window went into 2.6.20-rc1. However it wasn't much
substantial stuff; we didn't get much done during the past few months.
Here is my pull message: http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/12/07/323

You can patch the ieee1394 drivers in 2.6.{19,18,16.x} to nearly the
same level as in 2.6.20-rc1 (that is, minus changesets which only
address in-kernel API changes) by means of the patchkit v212 from
http://me.in-berlin.de/~s5r6/linux1394/merged/. However I'm 99.9% sure
that it won't fix the problems you got.

>>-rc1 does include a reasonably big firewire update, but I'm not sure how
>>it will affect your camera usage. In fact, the ieee1394 people seem to
>> be trying to deprecate the dv1394 stuff, in favour of just raw1394 and
>> user-mode libraries.

That's right.

>>I think you can tell Kino to use either the DV or the raw interface, but
>>I'm not sure. If you can, try either. The raw interface seems to be
>>horribly misdesigned (security problems), but is the one to use.

These security issues are partly inherent to the IEEE 1394 architecture,
if I may say so. Dan Dennedy has a patch as work in progress to improve
raw1394's security towards devices as far as possible (while still
allowing non-root users access to /dev/raw1394, unless the administrator
thinks otherwise).

The other issue is security of the local host against attacks from
malicious external devices or other PCs. Here the issue is with
OHCI-1394's physical DMA feature and the fact that the sbp2 driver needs
it enabled. I'm planning to implement filtered physical DMA as a simple
security improvement and, at some day in a /distant/ future, implement a
DMA mapping in sbp2 to work completely without physical DMA.

(Anyway, that's unrelated to Gene's issues.)
-- 
Stefan Richter
-=====-=-==- ==-- -===-
http://arcgraph.de/sr/

  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-14 17:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-14  2:06 Linux 2.6.20-rc1 Linus Torvalds
2006-12-14  2:46 ` Gene Heskett
2006-12-14  3:32   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-14  5:36     ` Gene Heskett
2006-12-14 17:48       ` Stefan Richter [this message]
2006-12-14 19:08         ` ieee1394 in 2.6.20-rc1 (was Re: Linux 2.6.20-rc1) Stefan Richter
2006-12-15  3:17         ` Gene Heskett
2006-12-17 18:11           ` Gene Heskett
2006-12-17 18:31             ` Stefan Richter
2006-12-17 19:04               ` Gene Heskett
2006-12-17 20:21                 ` Stefan Richter
2006-12-17 23:34                   ` Gene Heskett
2006-12-18  1:05                     ` Stefan Richter
2006-12-18  4:29                       ` Gene Heskett
2006-12-18 15:45                         ` Stefan Richter
2006-12-18 15:54                           ` Gene Heskett
2006-12-14 13:59 ` Linux 2.6.20-rc1 Alessandro Suardi
2006-12-14 14:18   ` Steve WIse
2006-12-14 15:48   ` Alan
2006-12-14 19:30 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-12-14 19:57   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-14 20:05     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-14 20:26       ` [PATCH] support HDIO_GET_IDENTITY in libata Erik Andersen
2006-12-14 20:31         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-14 20:40           ` Erik Andersen
2006-12-16 16:34             ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-15 18:45         ` Alexey Dobriyan
2006-12-16 16:34           ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-14 20:16     ` Linux 2.6.20-rc1 Alistair John Strachan
2006-12-14 20:28       ` Jens Axboe
2006-12-14 20:33         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-14 20:36           ` Jens Axboe
2006-12-14 20:48         ` Jens Axboe
2006-12-14 21:13           ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-12-14 21:20             ` Jens Axboe
2006-12-15  0:48               ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-12-15  1:41                 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-12-16 21:36                   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-16 22:28                     ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-12-16 22:31                       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-16 23:00                     ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-12-18 18:32                     ` Jens Axboe
2006-12-18 18:41                       ` Jens Axboe
2006-12-14 21:33             ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-14 21:44               ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-12-14 21:50                 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-14 22:33                   ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-12-19 12:41                     ` Jens Axboe
2006-12-19 14:32                       ` Robert Hancock
2006-12-19 14:38                         ` Jens Axboe
2006-12-19 14:50                           ` Jens Axboe
2006-12-19 17:49                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-14 21:53                 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-14 20:32   ` Nicolas Mailhot
2006-12-14 23:22     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-14 23:33       ` Nicolas Mailhot
2006-12-15 16:50 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-12-15 17:28   ` Alan
2006-12-18 21:57     ` Bill Davidsen
     [not found] ` <20061216174536.GA2753@melchior.yamamaya.is-a-geek.org>
2006-12-16 18:06   ` IO-APIC + timer doesn't work (was: Linux 2.6.20-rc1) Linus Torvalds
     [not found]     ` <20061216225338.GA2616@melchior.yamamaya.is-a-geek.org>
     [not found]       ` <20061216230605.GA2789@melchior.yamamaya.is-a-geek.org>
2006-12-16 23:36         ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]           ` <20061216235513.GA2424@melchior.yamamaya.is-a-geek.org>
2006-12-17  0:04             ` IO-APIC + timer doesn't work Linus Torvalds
2006-12-17  5:16               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-17  5:22               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-18  6:16                 ` Len Brown
2006-12-17 13:10               ` Tobias Diedrich
2006-12-17 17:26                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-17 14:57           ` IO-APIC + timer doesn't work (was: Linux 2.6.20-rc1) Tobias Diedrich
2006-12-18 13:14             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-18 15:23               ` Tobias Diedrich
2006-12-18 15:34                 ` Tobias Diedrich
2006-12-18 15:43                 ` IO-APIC + timer doesn't work Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-19  8:00                   ` Yinghai Lu
2006-12-19 11:27                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-20  6:50                       ` Yinghai Lu
2006-12-21 19:15                         ` Tobias Diedrich
2006-12-21 20:46                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-31  8:29                           ` Yinghai Lu

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