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From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Ed Tomlinson <edt@aei.ca>, Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>,
	Nicolas Mailhot <nicolas.mailhot@laposte.net>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] RSDL completely fair starvation free interactive cpu scheduler
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 23:04:07 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45F0DCB7.5020908@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0703051849410.3998@woody.linux-foundation.org>

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 5 Mar 2007, Ed Tomlinson wrote:
>> The patch _does_ make a difference.  For instance reading mail with freenet working 
>> hard  (threaded java application) and gentoo's emerge triggering compiles to update the 
>> box is much smoother.
>>
>> Think this scheduler needs serious looking at.  
> 
> I agree, partly because it's obviously been getting rave reviews so far, 
> but mainly because it looks like you can think about behaviour a lot 
> better, something that was always very hard with the interactivity 
> boosters with process state history.
> 
> I'm not at all opposed to this, but we do need:
>  - to not do it at this stage in the stable kernel
>  - to let it sit in -mm for at least a short while
>  - and generally more people testing more loads.
> 
Please, could you now rethink plugable scheduler as well? Even if one 
had to be chosen at boot time and couldn't be change thereafter, it 
would still allow a few new thoughts to be included.

> I don't actually worry too much about switching out a CPU scheduler: those 
> things are places where you *can* largely read the source code and get an 
> idea for them (although with the kind of history state that we currently 
> have, it's really really hard). But at the very least they aren't likely 
> to have subtle bugs that show up elsewhere, so...
> 
I confess that the default scheduler works for me most of the time, i/o 
tuning is more productive. I want tot test with kvm load, but 
2.6.21-rc3-git3 doesn't want to run kvm at all, I'm looking to see what 
I broke, since nbd doesn't work, either.

I'm collecting OOPS now, will forward when I have a few more.

> So as long as the generic concerns above are under control, I'll happily 
> try something like this if it can be merged early in a merge window..
> 
> 			Linus


-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-03-09  4:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-05  9:45 Nicolas Mailhot
2007-03-05  9:53 ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-05 10:00   ` Nicolas Mailhot
2007-03-05 15:22   ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2007-03-05 18:37     ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-05 18:20   ` Lee Revell
2007-03-05 19:19     ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-05 22:40       ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-05 23:19         ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-06  2:23       ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-03-06  2:54         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-06  3:36           ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-09  4:04           ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2007-03-09  6:31             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-09  7:04               ` Bill Huey
2007-03-09 10:54               ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-03-09 14:54               ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-09 18:11                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-06 17:50   ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-06 20:06     ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-09  4:21       ` Bill Davidsen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-03-11 22:29 bert hubert
2007-03-11 22:57 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-08 14:27 Tim Tassonis
2007-03-06  4:57 Shawn Starr
2007-03-04 20:35 Al Boldi
2007-03-04 21:49 ` Con Kolivas
     [not found]   ` <45EB45F7.3050208@simon.arlott.org.uk>
2007-03-04 22:27     ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-05 18:29       ` Simon Arlott
2007-03-05 21:36         ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-04 23:13   ` Willy Tarreau
2007-03-04 23:58     ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-05  1:09     ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-06  8:42 ` [ck] " Xavier Bestel
2007-03-06 15:15   ` Al Boldi
2007-03-11 18:11     ` Al Boldi
2007-03-11 21:52       ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-11 22:12         ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12  4:42           ` Al Boldi
2007-03-12  4:53             ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12 11:26               ` Al Boldi
2007-03-12 12:52                 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12 14:14                   ` Al Boldi
2007-03-12 14:58                     ` [ck] " jos poortvliet
2007-03-12 17:41                       ` Al Boldi
2007-03-12 18:05                     ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-18  1:30                   ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-04  7:00 Con Kolivas
2007-03-04  7:45 ` [ck] " Con Kolivas
2007-03-04 14:04   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-04 11:08 ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-04 11:47   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-04 12:24     ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-04 12:46       ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-04 13:25         ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-04 13:49           ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-04 14:11             ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-05  2:31               ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2007-03-05  3:16                 ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-04 14:36             ` Willy Tarreau
2007-03-04 16:08               ` [ck] " jos poortvliet
2007-03-05 23:05                 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-06  0:18                   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-06  4:41                     ` Willy Tarreau
2007-03-06  5:39                       ` Nicholas Miell
2007-03-06 19:04                       ` jos poortvliet
2007-03-06 21:37                       ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-06 21:54                         ` Willy Tarreau
2007-03-05 21:52 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-08  8:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 10:07   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-08 20:25 ` Fabio Comolli
2007-03-08 20:57   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-08 21:31     ` Fabio Comolli

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