From: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@infradead.org>
Cc: Alistair John Strachan <alistair@devzero.co.uk>,
Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.26-rc1
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 21:44:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4820B524.5080100@s5r6.in-berlin.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080506161346.183f367c@gaivota>
Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> On Tue, 06 May 2008 16:34:27 +0200
> Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de> wrote:
>> But it is /trivial/ to fix. If A selects B, you have to copy all of B's
>> dependencies to A or select these dependencies by A.
>>
>> So it's totally simple to do it right. The only nuisance is that you
>> always have to update B's dependencies and selections whenever A's
>> dependencies are changed.
>
> This is easy to maintain, if you have just a few selects, but this is not the
> case of V4L drivers. Look some examples:
>
> IVTV driver:
[...]
> You may argue to not use select, but it is really hard to avoid, since each of
> those main drivers (cx88, ivtv, bttv, etc) supports a large number of different
> devices, that needs different chips. Most V4L/DVB devices has an internal I2C
> bus that gives the flexibility for the board manufacturers to add/replace the
> internal components at the i2c bus. So, the Kernel uses abstraction layers that
> allows that the same driver to use different internal components.
Shouldn't layers actually untangle dependencies, i.e. concentrate
dependencies? A "high-level driver" does not depend on "low-level
drivers" and the low-level drivers' dependencies anymore. It only
depends on a "core driver" and on foreign subsystem APIs.
And yes, the core driver may very well provide some functionality which
not all of the high-level drivers need, or not all of the low-level
drivers are able to support.
(All theoretical since I have no idea of what kinds of modules of
functionality you have/need and whether it really can be simpler organized.)
--
Stefan Richter
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http://arcgraph.de/sr/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-06 19:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2008-05-03 19:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-03 21:47 ` Alistair John Strachan
2008-05-03 21:53 ` Alistair John Strachan
2008-05-04 12:30 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-04 13:56 ` Alistair John Strachan
2008-05-04 16:09 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-04 16:33 ` Alistair John Strachan
2008-05-05 21:04 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2008-05-06 8:02 ` Alistair John Strachan
2008-05-06 10:31 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2008-05-06 14:34 ` Stefan Richter
2008-05-06 14:54 ` Stefan Richter
2008-05-06 19:13 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2008-05-06 19:44 ` Stefan Richter [this message]
2008-05-06 20:06 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2008-05-06 20:47 ` Stefan Richter
2008-05-06 22:39 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2008-05-06 23:36 ` Stefan Richter
2008-05-08 12:48 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2008-05-08 14:11 ` Stefan Richter
2008-05-06 23:48 ` Stefan Richter
2008-05-04 7:29 ` [patch] sysfs: build fix Ingo Molnar
2008-05-04 18:40 ` Linux 2.6.26-rc1 Jan Engelhardt
2008-05-05 5:39 ` Andreas Mohr
2008-05-05 7:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-05 20:14 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2008-05-06 13:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-07 8:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-05 23:51 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-05-05 23:55 ` David Miller
2008-05-06 0:16 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-06 5:57 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-05-06 0:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-06 5:35 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-05-06 6:56 ` David Miller
2008-05-06 7:26 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-05-06 0:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-06 5:48 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-05-06 6:07 ` Scheduling problems ? [ Was: Linux 2.6.26-rc1 ] J.A. Magallón
2008-05-06 13:11 ` Ingo Molnar
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