From: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
mtk.manpages@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] 64-bit futexes: Intro
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 21:38:23 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4840D63F.2090407@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0805302116440.3141@woody.linux-foundation.org>
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Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Is it possible? I dunno.
Once again not without limitations which are too low. The main problem
is that there is far more information needed on the reader side. There
are two counters and a number of bits for state information. Which
means the counters can be at most 14 bits in size.
A counter this low also means I cannot unconditionally increment them
(since there can be more than 2^14 threads sharing one page). This
means you get in the cache line race I described in the last mail. You
first have to load a word and then perform a the write operation while
at the same time other threads competing with you for the same cache line.
> I personally suspect it is. I also suspect you
> didn't even try.
I have to disappoint you. I thought of that and had to reject it.
- --
➧ Ulrich Drepper ➧ Red Hat, Inc. ➧ 444 Castro St ➧ Mountain View, CA ❖
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-31 4:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-31 1:27 Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-31 2:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-31 3:14 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-31 3:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-31 4:04 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-31 4:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-31 4:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-31 4:38 ` Ulrich Drepper [this message]
2008-05-31 4:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-31 22:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-31 22:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-02 18:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-02 20:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-02 23:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-03 3:24 ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-04 19:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-04 20:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-05 1:56 ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-05 1:58 ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-05 3:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-05 4:29 ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-05 1:45 ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-06 1:27 ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-06 3:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-06 11:53 ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-06 15:01 ` Linus Torvalds
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