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From: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
To: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
Cc: Pekka J Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dsd@gentoo.org,
	mdharm-usb@one-eyed-alien.net, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org,
	vegardno@ifi.uio.no, James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH] usb-storage: wait for device scanning before mounting root
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:34:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <485AC2D9.2060406@s5r6.in-berlin.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080619202226.GP4392@parisc-linux.org>

Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 09:54:06PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote:
>> When to say "I've finished scanning"? --- I think the answer is:  When
>> (a) probing of a configurable number of SCSI targets or logical units
>> was finished or (b) a configurable timeout occurs, whatever of the two
>> happens first.
...
> Yes, I do see the problem.  There's no way the SCSI core can know when
> a driver has finished scanning, so I've punted to the driver to set its
> own timeout here.

This can of course (and frequently is) implemented in userspace, but
requires an initrd.  I'm not up to speed how scsi_wait_scan is put to
use --- it can be used without initrd, can't it?

> I know that new devices really can show up at any
> time, but I think it's reasonable to say that if a machine is booted
> with the same configuration as last time, the drives should show up with
> the same names.

I know that is not what you meant here, but...:

They do show up with the same target identifiers and logical unit
identifiers.  The SCSI core doesn't pass the identifiers through to
userland though.  (Couldn't resist to go off-subject.  Sorry.)
-- 
Stefan Richter
-=====-==--- -==- =--==
http://arcgraph.de/sr/

  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-19 20:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-24 20:21 Pekka J Enberg
2008-04-24 21:08 ` Alan Stern
2008-04-24 21:25   ` Pekka J Enberg
2008-04-24 22:56     ` Greg KH
2008-04-24 23:30       ` Matthew Dharm
2008-04-25  6:30         ` Pekka J Enberg
2008-04-25  7:04           ` Matthew Dharm
2008-04-25  8:19             ` Pekka J Enberg
2008-04-25 15:35               ` Matthew Dharm
2008-04-25 16:05               ` Greg KH
2008-04-25  6:09       ` Pekka J Enberg
2008-04-25  7:53     ` Stefan Richter
2008-04-25  8:15       ` Pekka J Enberg
2008-04-25  9:11         ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-06-19 18:23           ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-06-19 18:39             ` Stefan Richter
2008-06-19 18:43               ` Stefan Richter
2008-06-19 18:54               ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-06-19 19:52                 ` Matthew Dharm
2008-06-19 20:49                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-06-19 21:19                     ` Stefan Richter
2008-06-19 19:54                 ` Stefan Richter
2008-06-19 20:22                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-06-19 20:34                     ` Stefan Richter [this message]
2008-06-19 21:39             ` Alan Stern
2008-06-19 23:13               ` David Brownell
2008-06-20  9:53                 ` Gabor Gombas
2008-06-20 14:14                   ` Matthew Dharm
2008-06-20 15:15               ` Vegard Nossum
2008-06-20 15:31                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-06-20 15:42                 ` Alan Stern
2008-06-20 16:37                   ` Stefan Richter

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