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From: Wolfgang Grandegger <wg@grandegger.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Wolfgang Grandegger <wg@grandegger.com>,
	Luotao Fu <l.fu@pengutronix.de>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	RT <linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: 2.6.24-rc8-rt1: Strange latencies on mpc5200 powerpc - RCU	issue?
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:27:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <486A3EBB.6030905@grandegger.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080130111559.GC20089@pengutronix.de>

Hi,

I continue this thread because it's still not understood why enabling
CONFIG_RCU_TRACE is necessary to get reasonable latencies on the
MPC5200. It might also explain, why I get much worse latencies with
2.6.25.8-rt7.

Luotao Fu wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 02:57:16AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> ......
>>> Yes, I used "$ cyclictest -n -t1 -p80 -i1000" to measure the latency. So
>>> far, I have not done other tests. Any recommendation?
>>> As no-rt load I used "while ls; do ls /bin; done" in one telnet window
>>> and "while ./hackbench 10; do ./calibrator 400 32M cali; sleep 30; done"
>>> in another. But already "while ls; do ls /bin; done" is enough to
>>> trigger the high latencies quickly. Note also, that I work on a root
>>> files-ystem mounted via NFS resulting in a lot of network traffic and
>>> utilization.
>> I have to ask...
>>
>> Did you see large latencies when -not- running on NFS?
>>
> 
> I cannot speak for Wolfgang but I myself did not get extraordinary high
> latencies running tests on system booted from flash. Neither I could produce
> high latencies on nfs booted system. If my non-rt workload doesn't do heavy
> filesystem/network accesses. i.E. running only hackbench. Hence we were
> wondering if the problem is caused by rcu's in network layer or nfs
> implementation.

To recapitulate, with CONFIG_RCU_TRACE enabled, cyclictest reports max.
latencies of approx. 130 us with 2.6.24.4-rt4 on my MPC5200 PowerPC
board. If I disable it, the latency goes up to 600 us. Obviously, the
trace_mark() calls in rcupreempt*.c have some positive impact on the
latency. I narrowed down, that the 2 calls in __rcu_preempt_boost() in
rcupreempt-boost.c are the important one:

void __rcu_preempt_unboost(void)
{
	struct task_struct *curr = current;
	struct rcu_boost_dat *rbd;
	int prio;
	unsigned long flags;

	trace_mark(unboost_called, "NULL");

	/* if not boosted, then ignore */
	if (likely(!rcu_is_boosted(curr)))
		return;

	/*
	 * Need to be very careful with NMIs.
	 * If we take the lock and an NMI comes in
	 * and it may try to unboost us if curr->rcub_rbdp
	 * is still set. So we zero it before grabbing the lock.
	 * But this also means that we might be boosted again
	 * so the boosting code needs to be aware of this.
	 */
	rbd = curr->rcub_rbdp;
	curr->rcub_rbdp = NULL;

	/*
	 * Now an NMI might have came in after we grab
	 * the below lock. This check makes sure that
	 * the NMI doesn't try grabbing the lock
	 * while we already have it.
	 */
	if (unlikely(!rbd))
		return;

	spin_lock_irqsave(&rbd->rbs_lock, flags);
	/*
	 * It is still possible that an NMI came in
	 * between the "is_boosted" check and setting
	 * the rcu_rbdp to NULL. This would mean that
	 * the NMI already dequeued us.
	 */
	if (unlikely(!rcu_is_boosted(curr)))
		goto out;

	list_del_init(&curr->rcub_entry);

	trace_mark(unboosted, "NULL");

	curr->rcu_prio = MAX_PRIO;

	spin_lock(&curr->pi_lock);
	prio = rt_mutex_getprio(curr);
	task_setprio(curr, prio);

	curr->rcub_rbdp = NULL;

	spin_unlock(&curr->pi_lock);
  out:
	spin_unlock_irqrestore(&rbd->rbs_lock, flags);
}

With them and all other trace_mark() calls commented out, the latency is
still OK. The first one has a bigger impact.

In 2.6.25.8-rt7, trace_mark() is not used any more but a function
incrementing the corresponding counter directly and I suspect that's the
reason why I'm seeing high latencies with both, CONFIG_RCU_TRACE enabled
and disabled.

I hope this observation sheds some light on the issue.

Wolfgang.




  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-01 14:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-17  4:27 2.6.24-rc8-rt1 Steven Rostedt
2008-01-17  5:26 ` 2.6.24-rc8-rt1 Mark Knecht
2008-01-17 10:13 ` 2.6.24-rc8-rt1 Wolfgang Grandegger
2008-01-17 12:46   ` 2.6.24-rc8-rt1 Luotao Fu
2008-01-17 16:17   ` 2.6.24-rc8-rt1 Daniel Walker
2008-01-17 18:17     ` 2.6.24-rc8-rt1 Wolfgang Grandegger
2008-01-17 18:30       ` 2.6.24-rc8-rt1 Daniel Walker
2008-01-17 18:44         ` 2.6.24-rc8-rt1 Steven Rostedt
2008-01-17 18:45         ` 2.6.24-rc8-rt1 Steven Rostedt
2008-01-17 20:01           ` 2.6.24-rc8-rt1 Wolfgang Grandegger
2008-01-17 18:46         ` 2.6.24-rc8-rt1 Wolfgang Grandegger
2008-01-17 21:11   ` 2.6.24-rc8-rt1 Robert Schwebel
2008-01-17 21:36     ` 2.6.24-rc8-rt1 Wolfgang Grandegger
2008-01-23 14:53   ` 2.6.24-rc8-rt1: Strange latencies on mpc5200 powerpc Luotao Fu
2008-01-23 15:50     ` Daniel Walker
2008-01-23 16:36     ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2008-01-24 10:53       ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2008-01-28 15:11       ` Luotao Fu
2008-01-28 15:38         ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2008-01-29 12:13           ` 2.6.24-rc8-rt1: Strange latencies on mpc5200 powerpc - RCU issue? Luotao Fu
2008-01-29 13:38             ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2008-01-30  1:07               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-01-30  8:18                 ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2008-01-30 10:22                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-01-30 10:45                     ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2008-01-30 10:57                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-01-30 11:15                         ` Luotao Fu
2008-07-01 14:27                           ` Wolfgang Grandegger [this message]
2008-07-01 15:11                             ` Steven Rostedt
2008-07-01 16:11                               ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2008-07-01 21:11                                 ` Luotao Fu
2008-07-02 11:03                                 ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2008-07-06  0:42                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2008-07-06  9:41                                     ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2008-07-08 15:08                                       ` Luotao Fu
2008-07-08 19:43                                         ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2008-07-09 12:53                                           ` Luotao Fu
2008-07-09 13:15                                             ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2008-07-09 14:52                                               ` Luotao Fu
2008-07-10  7:50                                                 ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2008-08-01 21:09                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-01 21:09                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-05 15:40                                     ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2008-07-02  8:09                               ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2008-07-06  0:39                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-07-06  9:34                                   ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2008-01-30 11:22                         ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2008-01-17 19:57 ` 2.6.24-rc8-rt1 Mariusz Kozlowski

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