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From: Andrea Righi <righi.andrea@gmail.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: Ryo Tsuruta <ryov@valinux.co.jp>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dm-devel@redhat.com,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, fernando@oss.ntt.co.jp,
	balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com, xemul@openvz.org, agk@sourceware.org,
	jens.axboe@oracle.com
Subject: Re: dm-ioband + bio-cgroup benchmarks
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:37:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48D267B5.20402@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080918131554.GB20640@redhat.com>

Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 09:04:18PM +0900, Ryo Tsuruta wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have got excellent results of dm-ioband, that controls the disk I/O
>> bandwidth even when it accepts delayed write requests.
>>
>> In this time, I ran some benchmarks with a high-end storage. The
>> reason was to avoid a performance bottleneck due to mechanical factors
>> such as seek time.
>>
>> You can see the details of the benchmarks at:
>> http://people.valinux.co.jp/~ryov/dm-ioband/hps/
>>
> 
> Hi Ryo,
> 
> I had a query about dm-ioband patches. IIUC, dm-ioband patches will break
> the notion of process priority in CFQ because now dm-ioband device will
> hold the bio and issue these to lower layers later based on which bio's
> become ready. Hence actual bio submitting context might be different and
> because cfq derives the io_context from current task, it will be broken.
> 
> To mitigate that problem, we probably need to implement Fernando's
> suggestion of putting io_context pointer in bio. 
> 
> Have you already done something to solve this issue?
> 
> Secondly, why do we have to create an additional dm-ioband device for 
> every device we want to control using rules. This looks little odd
> atleast to me. Can't we keep it in line with rest of the controllers
> where task grouping takes place using cgroup and rules are specified in
> cgroup itself (The way Andrea Righi does for io-throttling patches)?
> 
> To avoid creation of stacking another device (dm-ioband) on top of every
> device we want to subject to rules, I was thinking of maintaining an
> rb-tree per request queue. Requests will first go into this rb-tree upon
> __make_request() and then will filter down to elevator associated with the
> queue (if there is one). This will provide us the control of releasing
> bio's to elevaor based on policies (proportional weight, max bandwidth
> etc) and no need of stacking additional block device.
> 
> I am working on some experimental proof of concept patches. It will take
> some time though.
> 
> I was thinking of following.
> 
> - Adopt the Andrea Righi's style of specifying rules for devices and
>   group the tasks using cgroups.
> 
> - To begin with, adopt dm-ioband's approach of proportional bandwidth
>   controller. It makes sense to me limit the bandwidth usage only in
>   case of contention. If there is really a need to limit max bandwidth,
>   then probably we can do something to implement additional rules or
>   implement some policy switcher where user can decide what kind of
>   policies need to be implemented.
> 
> - Get rid of dm-ioband and instead buffer requests on an rb-tree on every
>   request queue which is controlled by some kind of cgroup rules.
> 
> It would be good to discuss above approach now whether it makes sense or 
> not. I think it is kind of fusion of io-throttling and dm-ioband patches
> with additional idea of doing io-control just above elevator on the request
> queue using an rb-tree.

Thanks Vivek. All sounds reasonable to me and I think this is be the right way
to proceed.

I'll try to design and implement your rb-tree per request-queue idea into my
io-throttle controller, maybe we can reuse it also for a more generic solution.
Feel free to send me your experimental proof of concept if you want, even if
it's not yet complete, I can review it, test and contribute.

-Andrea

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-18 14:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-18 12:04 Ryo Tsuruta
2008-09-18 13:15 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-09-18 14:37   ` Andrea Righi [this message]
2008-09-18 15:06     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-09-18 15:18       ` Andrea Righi
2008-09-18 16:20         ` Vivek Goyal
2008-09-18 19:54           ` Andrea Righi
2008-09-19  3:34         ` [dm-devel] " Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-20  4:27           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-20  5:18             ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-20  9:25               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]           ` <661de9470809240404i62300942o15337ecec335fe22@mail.gmail.com>
2008-09-24 11:07             ` [Xen-devel] " Balbir Singh
2008-09-26 10:54               ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-19  6:12   ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-19 13:12     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-09-19 11:20   ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-19 13:10     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-09-19 20:28       ` Andrea Righi
2008-09-22  9:45         ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-22  9:36       ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-22 14:30         ` Vivek Goyal
2008-09-24  8:29           ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-24 14:03             ` Vivek Goyal
2008-09-26 16:11               ` Andrea Righi
2008-09-26 17:11                 ` Andrea Righi
2008-09-26 17:30                   ` Andrea Righi
2008-09-29 12:07                   ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-29 12:13                     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-09-24 10:18           ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-24 14:52             ` Vivek Goyal
2008-09-26 12:42               ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-24 10:34           ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-24 12:38             ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-24 14:53             ` Vivek Goyal
2008-09-26 13:04               ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-26 15:56                 ` Andrea Righi
2008-09-29 10:40                   ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-19  8:49 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2008-09-19 11:31   ` Ryo Tsuruta

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