From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Hirokazu Takahashi <taka@valinux.co.jp>,
righi.andrea@gmail.com, dm-devel@redhat.com,
xen-devel@lists.xensource.com,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org, agk@sourceware.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, jens.axboe@oracle.com,
fernando@oss.ntt.co.jp, xemul@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [dm-devel] Re: dm-ioband + bio-cgroup benchmarks
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:18:01 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48D48789.8000606@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080920132703.e74c8f89.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:34:05 +0900 (JST)
> Hirokazu Takahashi <taka@valinux.co.jp> wrote:
>
>> I've decided to get Ryo to post the accurate dirty-page tracking patch
>> for bio-cgroup, which isn't perfect yet though. The memory controller
>> never wants to support this tracking because migrating a page between
>> memory cgroups is really heavy.
>>
>> I also thought enhancing the memory controller would be good enough,
>> but a lot of people said they wanted to control memory resource and
>> block I/O resource separately.
>> So you can create several bio-cgroup in one memory-cgroup,
>> or you can use bio-cgroup without memory-cgroup.
>>
>> I also have a plan to implement more acurate tracking mechanism
>> on bio-cgroup after the memory cgroup team re-implement the infrastructure,
>> which won't be supported by memory-cgroup.
>> When a process are moved into another memory cgroup,
>> the pages belonging to the process don't move to the new cgroup
>> because migrating pages is so heavy. It's hard to find the pages
>> from the process and migrating pages may cause some memory pressure.
>> I'll implement this feature only on bio-cgroup with minimum overhead
>>
> I really would like to move page_cgroup to new cgroup when the process moves...
> But it's just in my plan and I'm not sure I can do it or not.
>
Kamezawa-San, I am not dead against it, but I would provide a knob/control point
for system administrator to decide if movement is important for applications,
then let them do so (like force_empty).
> Anyway what's next for me is
> 1. fix current discussion to remove page->page_cgroup pointer.
> 2. reduce locks.
Are you planning on reposting these. I've been trying other approaches at my end
1. Use radix tree per-node per-zone
2. Use radix trees only for 32 bit systems
3. Depend on CONFIG_HAVE_MEMORY_PRESENT and build a sparse data structure and
use pre-allocation
I've posted (1) and I'll take a look at your patches as well
> 3. support swap and swap-cache.
>
> I think algorithm for (1), (2) is now getting smart.
>
Yes, it is getting better
> Thanks,
> -Kame
>
--
Balbir
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-20 5:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-18 12:04 Ryo Tsuruta
2008-09-18 13:15 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-09-18 14:37 ` Andrea Righi
2008-09-18 15:06 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-09-18 15:18 ` Andrea Righi
2008-09-18 16:20 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-09-18 19:54 ` Andrea Righi
2008-09-19 3:34 ` [dm-devel] " Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-20 4:27 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-20 5:18 ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2008-09-20 9:25 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
[not found] ` <661de9470809240404i62300942o15337ecec335fe22@mail.gmail.com>
2008-09-24 11:07 ` [Xen-devel] " Balbir Singh
2008-09-26 10:54 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-19 6:12 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-19 13:12 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-09-19 11:20 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-19 13:10 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-09-19 20:28 ` Andrea Righi
2008-09-22 9:45 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-22 9:36 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-22 14:30 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-09-24 8:29 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-24 14:03 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-09-26 16:11 ` Andrea Righi
2008-09-26 17:11 ` Andrea Righi
2008-09-26 17:30 ` Andrea Righi
2008-09-29 12:07 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-29 12:13 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-09-24 10:18 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-24 14:52 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-09-26 12:42 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-24 10:34 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-24 12:38 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-24 14:53 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-09-26 13:04 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-26 15:56 ` Andrea Righi
2008-09-29 10:40 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-19 8:49 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2008-09-19 11:31 ` Ryo Tsuruta
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