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From: Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu>
To: Andrey Mirkin <major@openvz.org>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Devel] Re: [PATCH 0/9] OpenVZ kernel based checkpointing/restart
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:35:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <490F5276.6050808@cs.columbia.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200810271707.13580.major@openvz.org>



Andrey Mirkin wrote:
> On Monday 20 October 2008 19:55 Dave Hansen wrote:
>> On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 16:14 +0400, Andrey Mirkin wrote:
>>> Right now my patchset (v2) provides an ability to checkpoint and restart
>>> a group of processes. The process of checkpointing and restart can be
>>> initiated from external process (not from the process which should be
>>> checkpointed).
>> Absolutely.  Oren's code does it this way to make for a smaller patch at
>> first.  The syscall takes a pid argument so it is surely expected to be
>> expanded upon later.
>>
>>> Also I think that all the restart job (including process forking) should
>>> be done in kernel, as in this case we will not depend on user space and
>>> will be more secure. This is also implemented in my patchset.
>> Do you think that this is an approach that Oren's patches are married
>> to, or is this a "feature" we can add on later?
> 
> Well, AFAICS from Oren's patch set his approach is oriented on process 
> creation in user space. I think we should choose right now what approach will 
> be used for process creation.
> We have two options here: fork processes in kernel or fork them in user space.
> If process will be forked in user space, then there will be a gap when process 
> will be in user space and can be killed with received signal before entering 

> kernel. Also we will need a functionolity to create processes with predefined 
> PID. I think it is not very good to provide such ability to user space. That 

Rethinking this -- if the user wishes she can construct a suitable
checkpoint image that would do exactly that. It takes more effort than
using a system call, but the result is similar.

What I had in mind for that special clone-with-pid is to restrict when
it can be used (e.g. when the container is in a "restarting" state or
something like that.

[...]

Oren.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-11-03 19:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-03 10:57 Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 10:57 ` [PATCH 1/9] Introduce trivial sys_checkpoint and sys_restore system calls Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 10:57   ` [PATCH 2/9] Make checkpoint/restart functionality modular Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 10:57     ` [PATCH 3/9] Introduce context structure needed during checkpointing/restart Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 10:57       ` [PATCH 4/9] Introduce container dump function Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 10:57         ` [PATCH 5/9] Introduce function to dump process Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 10:57           ` [PATCH 6/9] Introduce functions to dump mm Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 10:57             ` [PATCH 7/9] Introduce function for restarting a container Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 10:57               ` [PATCH 8/9] Introduce functions to restart a process Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 10:57                 ` [PATCH 9/9] Introduce functions to restore mm Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 14:32                 ` [PATCH 8/9] Introduce functions to restart a process Louis Rilling
2008-09-13 17:34                   ` Pavel Machek
2008-09-03 14:17             ` [PATCH 6/9] Introduce functions to dump mm Louis Rilling
2008-09-03 14:23         ` [PATCH 4/9] Introduce container dump function Serge E. Hallyn
2008-09-03 14:45           ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 12:29       ` [PATCH 3/9] Introduce context structure needed during checkpointing/restart Matthieu Fertré
2008-09-03 14:11         ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 13:56       ` Louis Rilling
2008-09-03 14:07         ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 14:13       ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-09-03 14:29         ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 14:27     ` [PATCH 2/9] Make checkpoint/restart functionality modular Serge E. Hallyn
2008-09-03 14:51       ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 11:44   ` [PATCH 1/9] Introduce trivial sys_checkpoint and sys_restore system calls Cedric Le Goater
2008-09-03 13:05     ` [Devel] " Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 12:28 ` [PATCH 0/9] OpenVZ kernel based checkpointing/restart Cedric Le Goater
2008-09-03 13:59   ` [Devel] " Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-04 22:55     ` Dave Hansen
2008-09-03 14:18   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-09-03 13:49 ` Louis Rilling
2008-09-03 14:06   ` Louis Rilling
2008-09-03 14:19     ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 14:26     ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-09-03 14:53       ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-04  8:14 ` Oren Laadan
2008-09-04 14:05 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-17 23:33 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-20 11:10   ` Louis Rilling
2008-10-20 13:25     ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-20 13:48       ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-20 13:49         ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-20 15:53       ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-20 16:37         ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-20 17:23           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-21  0:18             ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-21  0:58               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-21 13:24               ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-27 14:45           ` [Devel] " Andrey Mirkin
2008-10-20 16:51         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-21  9:36         ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-20 16:36     ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-20 12:14   ` [Devel] " Andrey Mirkin
2008-10-20 15:55     ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-27 14:07       ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-10-27 14:39         ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-30  6:02           ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-10-30 11:47             ` Louis Rilling
2008-10-30 17:08               ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-30 18:01                 ` Louis Rilling
2008-10-30 18:28                   ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-30 17:45               ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-30 18:14                 ` Louis Rilling
2008-10-30 18:32                   ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-31 10:37                     ` Louis Rilling
2008-10-30 14:08             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-30 17:03             ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-03 19:35         ` Oren Laadan [this message]
2008-10-20 17:17     ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-27 14:38       ` Andrey Mirkin

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