From: Matheus Alves de Almeida <matheus.aalmeida@inf.ufrgs.br>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
nic_swsd@realtek.com, Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 3/3] r8169: release firmware on application failure
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2026 19:21:37 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4932edb9744774faf102704ccbc8cdd3@inf.ufrgs.br> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fcaf8c8c-f6df-46c0-ac9d-7924c732283c@lunn.ch>
On 2026-09-16 19:02, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2026 at 06:15:00PM -0300, Matheus Alves de Almeida wrote:
>> > If the firmware cannot be written, is the device dead? Should this
>> > return an error, so the caller can abort the probe?
>>
>> A timeout while applying firmware could indeed indicate a PHY access
>> problem. However, firmware loading failures are already non-fatal,
>> and the callers of r8169_apply_firmware() do not propagate errors
>> either. Making firmware application failures fatal would require
>> broader changes to several r8169 PHY initialization paths.
>
> But you are making such changes, returning errors up the call chain.
> Why are you making these changes? We either assume nothing can fail,
> so we throw away the return code, or we should assume everything can
> fail, and propagate the errors.
>
> If we assume error can happen, if there is an error in firmware
> download, isn't that fatal? Should we even care about care about PHY
> read/write errors if firmware download has failed? And since firmware
> download is probably the first thing to happen, if anything is likely
> to fair, i would expect firmware download is what is going to fail.
>
> Andrew
You're right. It is one of the first things that happen, so checking it
makes sense. I will make firmware application errors propagate up to
rtl_open() in v2.
Matheus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-16 22:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-16 15:24 [PATCH net-next 0/3] r8169: handle firmware application errors Matheus Alves de Almeida
2026-09-16 15:24 ` [PATCH net-next 1/3] r8169: propagate errors from PHY write operations Matheus Alves de Almeida
2026-09-16 18:38 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-09-16 21:10 ` Matheus Alves de Almeida
2026-09-16 21:14 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-09-16 21:19 ` Matheus Alves de Almeida
2026-09-16 15:24 ` [PATCH net-next 2/3] r8169: propagate firmware access errors Matheus Alves de Almeida
2026-09-16 15:24 ` [PATCH net-next 3/3] r8169: release firmware on application failure Matheus Alves de Almeida
2026-09-16 18:42 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-09-16 21:15 ` Matheus Alves de Almeida
2026-09-16 22:02 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-09-16 22:21 ` Matheus Alves de Almeida [this message]
2026-09-17 2:19 ` Matheus Alves de Almeida
2026-09-17 12:14 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-09-18 0:45 ` Matheus Alves de Almeida
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