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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
Cc: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	Bart Van Assche <Bart.VanAssche@wdc.com>,
	"dm-devel@redhat.com" <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
	"hch@infradead.org" <hch@infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	"osandov@fb.com" <osandov@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] blk-mq: fixup RESTART when queue becomes idle
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 10:09:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <499af8b8-747a-ed0d-9b4c-e56e6e815a16@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180119170519.GF14827@ming.t460p>

On 1/19/18 10:05 AM, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 09:52:32AM -0700, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> On 1/19/18 9:47 AM, Mike Snitzer wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jan 19 2018 at 11:41am -0500,
>>> Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/19/18 9:37 AM, Ming Lei wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 09:27:46AM -0700, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/19/18 9:26 AM, Ming Lei wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 09:19:24AM -0700, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are no pending requests for this case, nothing to restart the
>>>>>> queue. When you fail that blk_get_request(), you are idle, nothing
>>>>>> is pending.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we needn't worry about that, once a device is attached to
>>>>> dm-rq, it can't be mounted any more, and usually user don't use the device
>>>>> directly and by dm-mpath at the same time.
>>>>
>>>> Even if it doesn't happen for a normal dm setup, it is a case that
>>>> needs to be handled. The request allocation is just one example of
>>>> a wider scope resource that can be unavailable. If the driver returns
>>>> NO_DEV_RESOURCE (or whatever name), it will be a possibility that
>>>> the device itself is currently idle.
>>>
>>> How would a driver's resources be exhausted yet the device is idle (so
>>> as not to be able to benefit from RESTART)?
>>
>> I've outlined a number of these examples already. Another case might be:
>>
>> 1) Device is idle
>> 2) Device gets request
>> 3) Device attempts to DMA map
>> 4) DMA map fails because the IOMMU is out of space (nic is using it all)
>> 5) Device returns STS_RESOURCE
>> 6) Queue is marked as needing a restart
>>
>> All's well, except there is no IO on this device that will notice the
>> restart bit and retry the operation.
>>
>> Replace IOMMU failure with any other resource that the driver might need
>> for an IO, which isn't tied to a device specific resource.
>> blk_get_request() on dm is an example, as is any allocation failure
>> occurring in the queue IO path for the driver.
> 
> Yeah, if we decide to take the approach of introducing NO_DEV_RESOURCE, all
> the current STS_RESOURCE for non-device resource allocation(kmalloc, dma
> map, get_request, ...) should be converted to NO_DEV_RESOURCE.
> 
> And it is a generic issue, which need generic solution.

Precisely.

> Seems running queue after arbitrary in this case is the only way we
> thought of, or other solutions?

I think that is the only solution. If it's a frequent enough occurence
to cause performance issues, then it's likely down to a specific
resource shortage, and we can tackle that independently (we need to,
since each of those will need a specialized solution).

> If the decision is made, let's make/review the patch, :-)

Let 'er rip.

-- 
Jens Axboe

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-19 17:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-18  2:41 Ming Lei
2018-01-18 16:50 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-18 17:03   ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-18 17:20     ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-18 18:30       ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-18 18:47         ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-18 20:11           ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-18 20:48             ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-18 20:58               ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-18 21:23                 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-18 21:37                   ` Laurence Oberman
2018-01-18 21:39                   ` [dm-devel] " Bart Van Assche
2018-01-18 22:01                     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-18 22:18                       ` Laurence Oberman
2018-01-18 22:24                         ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-18 22:35                           ` Laurence Oberman
2018-01-18 22:39                             ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-18 22:55                               ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-18 22:20                       ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-23  9:22                         ` [PATCH] block: neutralize blk_insert_cloned_request IO stall regression (was: Re: [RFC PATCH] blk-mq: fixup RESTART when queue becomes idle) Mike Snitzer
2018-01-23 10:53                           ` Ming Lei
2018-01-23 12:15                             ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-23 12:17                               ` Ming Lei
2018-01-23 12:43                                 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-23 16:43                           ` [PATCH] " Bart Van Assche
2018-01-19  2:32             ` [RFC PATCH] blk-mq: fixup RESTART when queue becomes idle Ming Lei
2018-01-19  4:02               ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-19  7:26                 ` Ming Lei
2018-01-19 15:20                   ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-19 15:25                     ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-19 15:33                     ` Ming Lei
2018-01-19 16:06                       ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-19 15:24                   ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-19 15:40                     ` Ming Lei
2018-01-19 15:48                       ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-19 16:05                         ` Ming Lei
2018-01-19 16:19                           ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-19 16:26                             ` Ming Lei
2018-01-19 16:27                               ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-19 16:37                                 ` Ming Lei
2018-01-19 16:41                                   ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-19 16:47                                     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-19 16:52                                       ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-19 17:05                                         ` Ming Lei
2018-01-19 17:09                                           ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2018-01-19 17:20                                             ` Ming Lei
2018-01-19 17:38                                   ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-19 18:24                                     ` Ming Lei
2018-01-19 18:33                                     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-19 23:52                                     ` Ming Lei
2018-01-20  4:27                                       ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-19 16:13                         ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-19 16:23                           ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-19 23:57                             ` Ming Lei
2018-01-29 22:37                     ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-19  5:09               ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-19  7:34                 ` Ming Lei
2018-01-19 19:47                   ` Bart Van Assche

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