From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Cc: Hitoshi Mitake <h.mitake@gmail.com>,
Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
tglx@linutronix.de, rpjday@crashcourse.ca,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: Remove readq()/writeq() on 32-bit
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:05:09 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A0B3605.8090007@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A0B30D0.4060806@garzik.org>
Jeff Garzik wrote:
>
> Roland's patch was acked, apparently, _in spite of_ the commonly
> accepted readq() definition already being in use!
>
> Thusfar, I see two things:
>
> (1) years of history has shown that non-atomic readq/writeq on 32-bit
> platforms has been sufficient, based on testing and experience. In
> fact, in niu's case, a common readq/writeq would have PREVENTED a bug.
>
> (2) unspecified fears continue to linger about non-atomicity
>
> We should not base decisions on fear, particularly when the weight of
> evidence and experience points in the other direction.
>
I have personally dealt with at least one device who'd want to opt out
of a standard readq/writeq (it's not in-tree because it never shipped,
unfortunately.) Doing the opt-in headers seems like a reasonable thing
to do to me, but perhaps I'm just being overly paranoid.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-13 21:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-19 19:45 arch/x86/Kconfig selects invalid HAVE_READQ, HAVE_WRITEQ vars Robert P. J. Day
2009-04-19 21:12 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-19 21:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-19 22:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-19 22:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-20 0:56 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-20 2:08 ` Robert Hancock
2009-04-20 0:53 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-20 1:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-20 10:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-20 14:47 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-04-20 16:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-21 8:33 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-04-21 8:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-21 8:57 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-04-21 15:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-21 17:07 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-21 17:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-21 17:23 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-21 19:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-21 21:11 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-21 21:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-22 0:31 ` David Miller
2009-04-28 19:05 ` [PATCH] x86: Remove readq()/writeq() on 32-bit Roland Dreier
2009-04-29 5:12 ` David Miller
2009-04-29 11:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-29 12:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-29 17:25 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-29 19:59 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13 5:32 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-13 20:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-13 22:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13 23:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-14 0:49 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-14 7:19 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-15 23:44 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-17 7:12 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-17 8:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-21 11:35 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-21 11:49 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-13 20:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13 21:05 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2009-05-13 21:30 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13 21:31 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13 21:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-13 22:06 ` Roland Dreier
2009-05-13 22:29 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-29 17:21 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-22 0:27 ` arch/x86/Kconfig selects invalid HAVE_READQ, HAVE_WRITEQ vars David Miller
2009-04-22 0:25 ` David Miller
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