From: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: adding proper O_SYNC/O_DSYNC, was Re: O_DIRECT and barriers
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:24:28 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A96C14C.8040105@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090827171044.GA5427@infradead.org>
On 08/27/2009 10:10 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> The question is how to handle this at the libc level. Currently glibc
> defines O_DSYNC to be O_SYNC. We would need to update glibc to pass
> through O_DSYNC for newer kernels and make sure it falls back to O_SYNC
> for olders. I'm not sure how feasible this is, but maybe Ulrich has
> some better ideas.
The problem with O_* extensions is that the syscall doesn't fail if the
flag is not handled. This is a problem in the open implementation which
can only be fixed with a new syscall.
Why cannot just go on and say we interpret O_SYNC like O_SYNC and
O_SYNC|O_DSYNC like O_DSYNC. The POSIX spec explicitly requires that
the latter handled like O_SYNC.
We could handle it by allocating two bits, only one is handled in the
kernel. If the O_DSYNC definition for userlevel would be different from
the kernel definition then the kernel could interpret O_SYNC|O_DSYNC
like O_DSYNC. The libc would then have to translate the userlevel
O_DSYNC into the kernel O_DSYNC. If the libc is too old for the kernel
and the application, the userlevel flag would be passed to the kernel
and nothing bad happens.
The cleaner alternative is to have a sys_newopen which checks for
unknown flags and fails in that case.
--
➧ Ulrich Drepper ➧ Red Hat, Inc. ➧ 444 Castro St ➧ Mountain View, CA ❖
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-27 17:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-19 16:04 [PATCH 0/17] Make O_SYNC handling use standard syncing path Jan Kara
2009-08-19 16:04 ` [PATCH 01/17] vfs: Introduce filemap_fdatawait_range Jan Kara
2009-08-19 16:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-19 16:04 ` [PATCH 02/17] vfs: Export __generic_file_aio_write() and add some comments Jan Kara
2009-08-19 16:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-20 12:04 ` Jan Kara
2009-08-19 20:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-08-20 12:31 ` Jan Kara
2009-08-20 13:30 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-08-20 13:52 ` Jan Kara
2009-08-20 13:58 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-08-19 16:04 ` [PATCH 03/17] vfs: Remove syncing from generic_file_direct_write() and generic_file_buffered_write() Jan Kara
2009-08-19 16:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-20 13:31 ` Jan Kara
2009-08-19 16:04 ` [PATCH 04/17] pohmelfs: Use __generic_file_aio_write instead of generic_file_aio_write_nolock Jan Kara
2009-08-19 16:04 ` [PATCH 05/17] ocfs2: " Jan Kara
2009-08-19 16:04 ` [PATCH 06/17] vfs: Remove sync_page_range_nolock Jan Kara
2009-08-19 16:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-19 16:04 ` [PATCH 07/17] vfs: Introduce new helpers for syncing after writing to O_SYNC file or IS_SYNC inode Jan Kara
2009-08-19 16:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-20 12:15 ` Jan Kara
2009-08-20 16:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-21 15:23 ` Jan Kara
2009-08-21 15:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-21 15:48 ` Jan Kara
2009-08-26 18:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-27 0:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-19 16:04 ` [PATCH 08/17] ext2: Update comment about generic_osync_inode Jan Kara
2009-08-19 16:04 ` [PATCH 09/17] ext3: Remove syncing logic from ext3_file_write Jan Kara
2009-08-19 16:04 ` [PATCH 10/17] ext4: Remove syncing logic from ext4_file_write Jan Kara
2009-08-19 16:04 ` [PATCH 11/17] fat: Opencode sync_page_range_nolock() Jan Kara
2009-08-19 16:04 ` [PATCH 12/17] ntfs: Use new syncing helpers and update comments Jan Kara
2009-08-19 16:04 ` [PATCH 13/17] ocfs2: Update syncing after splicing to match generic version Jan Kara
2009-08-21 1:36 ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joel Becker
2009-08-21 14:30 ` Jan Kara
2009-08-19 16:04 ` [PATCH 14/17] xfs: Use new syncing helper Jan Kara
2009-08-19 16:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-20 12:22 ` Jan Kara
2009-08-19 16:04 ` [PATCH 15/17] pohmelfs: " Jan Kara
2009-08-19 16:04 ` [PATCH 16/17] nfs: Remove reference to generic_osync_inode from a comment Jan Kara
2009-08-19 16:04 ` [PATCH 17/17] vfs: Remove generic_osync_inode() and sync_page_range() Jan Kara
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2009-08-27 17:10 ` adding proper O_SYNC/O_DSYNC, was Re: O_DIRECT and barriers Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-27 17:24 ` Ulrich Drepper [this message]
2009-08-28 15:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-28 16:06 ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-08-28 16:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-28 16:33 ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-08-28 16:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-28 20:51 ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-08-28 21:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-28 21:16 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-08-28 21:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-28 21:43 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-08-28 22:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-30 16:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 16:46 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-29 0:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 16:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 16:50 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 21:08 ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-08-30 16:58 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-30 17:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 23:06 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 23:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
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