From: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
To: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
zach.brown@oracle.com, jens.axboe@oracle.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] ipc semaphores: reduce ipc_lock contention in semtimedop
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 21:11:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BC61370.7020700@colorfullife.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100414173319.GA3228@think>
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On 04/14/2010 07:33 PM, Chris Mason wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 06:16:53PM +0200, Manfred Spraul wrote:
>
>> On 04/13/2010 08:19 PM, Chris Mason wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 04:09:45AM +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 01:39:41PM -0400, Chris Mason wrote:
>>>> The other thing I don't know if your patch gets right is requeueing on
>>>> of the operations. When you requeue from one list to another, then you
>>>> seem to lose ordering with other pending operations, so that would
>>>> seem to break the API as well (can't remember if the API strictly
>>>> mandates FIFO, but anyway it can open up starvation cases).
>>>>
>>> I don't see anything in the docs about the FIFO order. I could add an
>>> extra sort on sequence number pretty easily, but is the starvation case
>>> really that bad?
>>>
>>>
>> How do you want to determine the sequence number?
>> Is atomic_inc_return() on a per-semaphore array counter sufficiently fast?
>>
> I haven't tried yet, but hopefully it won't be a problem. A later patch
> does atomics on the reference count and it doesn't show up in the
> profiles.
>
>
>>
>>>> I was looking at doing a sequence number to be able to sort these, but
>>>> it ended up getting over complex (and SAP was only using simple ops so
>>>> it didn't seem to need much better).
>>>>
>>>> We want to be careful not to change semantics at all. And it gets
>>>> tricky quickly :( What about Zach's simpler wakeup API?
>>>>
>>> Yeah, that's why my patches include code to handle userland sending
>>> duplicate semids. Zach's simpler API is cooking too, but if I can get
>>> this done without insane complexity it helps with more than just the
>>> post/wait oracle workload.
>>>
>>>
>> What is the oracle workload, which multi-sembuf operations does it use?
>> How many semaphores are in one array?
>>
>> When the last optimizations were written, I've searched a bit:
>> - postgres uses per-process semaphores, with small semaphore arrays.
>> [process sleeps on it's own semaphore and is woken up by someone
>> else when it can make progress]
>>
> This is similar to Oracle (and the sembench program). Each process has
> a semaphore and when it is waiting for a commit it goes to sleep on it.
> They are woken up in bulk with semtimedop calls from a single process.
>
>
Hmm. Thus you have:
- single sembuf decrease operations that are waiting frequently.
- multi-sembuf increase operations.
What about optimizing for that case?
Increase operations succeed immediately. Thus complex_count is 0.
If we have performed an update operation, then we can scan all
simple_lists that have seen an increase instead of checking the global
list - as long as there are no complex operations waiting.
Right now, we give up if the update operation was a complex operation -
but that does not matter.
All that matters are the sleeping operations, not the operation that did
the wakeup.
I've attached an untested idea.
> But oracle also uses semaphores for locking in a traditional sense.
>
> Putting the waiters into a per-semaphore list is really only part of the
> speedup. The real boost comes from the patch to break up the locks into
> a per semaphore lock.
>
>
Ok. Then simple tricks won't help.
How many semaphores are in one array?
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Manfred
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diff --git a/ipc/sem.c b/ipc/sem.c
index dbef95b..8986239 100644
--- a/ipc/sem.c
+++ b/ipc/sem.c
@@ -1224,8 +1224,18 @@ SYSCALL_DEFINE4(semtimedop, int, semid, struct sembuf __user *, tsops,
error = try_atomic_semop (sma, sops, nsops, un, task_tgid_vnr(current));
if (error <= 0) {
- if (alter && error == 0)
- update_queue(sma, (nsops == 1) ? sops[0].sem_num : -1);
+ if (alter && error == 0) {
+ if (sma->complex_count) {
+ update_queue(sma, -1);
+ } else {
+ int i;
+
+ for (i=0;i<nsops;i++) {
+ if (sops[i].sem_op > 0)
+ update_queue(sma, sops[i].sem_num);
+ }
+ }
+ }
goto out_unlock_free;
}
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-14 19:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-12 18:49 [PATCH RFC] Optimize semtimedop Chris Mason
2010-04-12 18:49 ` [PATCH 1/2] ipc semaphores: reduce ipc_lock contention in semtimedop Chris Mason
2010-04-13 17:15 ` Manfred Spraul
2010-04-13 17:39 ` Chris Mason
2010-04-13 18:09 ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-13 18:19 ` Chris Mason
2010-04-13 18:57 ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-13 19:01 ` Chris Mason
2010-04-13 19:25 ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-13 19:38 ` Chris Mason
2010-04-13 20:05 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-16 16:57 ` Manfred Spraul
2010-05-16 22:40 ` Chris Mason
2010-05-17 7:20 ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-14 16:16 ` Manfred Spraul
2010-04-14 17:33 ` Chris Mason
2010-04-14 19:11 ` Manfred Spraul [this message]
2010-04-14 19:50 ` Chris Mason
2010-04-15 16:33 ` Manfred Spraul
2010-04-15 16:34 ` Chris Mason
2010-04-13 18:24 ` Zach Brown
2010-04-16 11:26 ` Manfred Spraul
2010-04-16 11:45 ` Chris Mason
2010-04-12 18:49 ` [PATCH 2/2] ipc semaphores: order wakeups based on waiter CPU Chris Mason
2010-04-17 10:24 ` Manfred Spraul
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