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From: Rafi Rubin <rafi@seas.upenn.edu>
To: Ping Cheng <pinglinux@gmail.com>
Cc: Henrik Rydberg <rydberg@euromail.se>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Mika Kuoppala <mika.kuoppala@nokia.com>,
	Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer@who-t.net>,
	Benjamin Tissoires <tissoire@cena.fr>,
	Stephane Chatty <chatty@enac.fr>,
	Michael Poole <mdpoole@troilus.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] input: mt: Document the MT event slot protocol (rev2)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 19:34:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BF4756C.8030204@seas.upenn.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikpmYwEYh5Dh-p3478cDMVo9hXOsDkt54ltHW6J@mail.gmail.com>

My understanding is that it would be more like
+   SYN_MT_SLOT 0
+   ABS_MT_POSITION_X x
+   ABS_MT_POSITION_Y y
+   SYN_REPORT
+   SYN_MT_SLOT 0
+   ABS_MT_POSITION_X x
+   ABS_MT_POSITION_Y y
+   SYN_REPORT
+   SYN_MT_SLOT 0
+   ABS_MT_POSITION_X x
+   ABS_MT_POSITION_Y y
+   SYN_MT_SLOT 1
+   ABS_MT_POSITION_X x
+   ABS_MT_POSITION_Y y
+   SYN_REPORT


(2 events from 1 finger, followed by 1 event with both).


On 05/19/2010 06:43 PM, Ping Cheng wrote:
> Hi Henrik,
>
> I am trying to link the protocol to the actual multi-touch devices in
> my "mind". Hope it helps you to point out the mismatch between my
> imagination and the protocol.  Please see details in line.
>
> Ping
>
> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Henrik Rydberg<rydberg@euromail.se>  wrote:
>> This patch adds documentation for the SYN_MT_SLOT event and
>> gives examples of how to use the event slot protocol.
>
> Am I right in thinking that SYN_MT_SLOT represents to the actual touch
> area/finger on the surface? There could be more than one (x,y) (a few
> points that form an irregular shape) that represents one finger.  The
> following example shows that slot 0 (finger 1) touched three points on
> the surface while slot 1 (finger 2) only has one point reported:
>
> +   SYN_MT_SLOT 0
> +   ABS_MT_TRACKING_ID 45
> +   ABS_MT_POSITION_X x[0]
> +   ABS_MT_POSITION_Y y[0]
> +   ABS_MT_TRACKING_ID 46
> +   ABS_MT_POSITION_X x[1]
> +   ABS_MT_POSITION_Y y[1]
> +   ABS_MT_TRACKING_ID 47
> +   ABS_MT_POSITION_X x[2]
> +   ABS_MT_POSITION_Y y[2]
> +   SYN_MT_SLOT 1
> +   ABS_MT_TRACKING_ID 30
> +   ABS_MT_POSITION_X x[3]
> +   ABS_MT_POSITION_Y y[3]
> +   SYN_REPORT
>
> If my assumption is correct, i.e., one slot can have more than one
> point, I would think ABS_MT_TRACKING_ID may not have to be a required
> entry inside SYN_MT_SLOT.  To the user land clients/drivers,
> SYN_MT_SLOT itself could serve as an ID. So, the following case is
> also a type B ( we know there are two touch areas. But we don't keep
> track of the points inside the areas):
>
> +   SYN_MT_SLOT 0
> +   ABS_MT_POSITION_X x[0]
> +   ABS_MT_POSITION_Y y[0]
> +   ABS_MT_POSITION_X x[1]
> +   ABS_MT_POSITION_Y y[1]
> +   ABS_MT_POSITION_X x[2]
> +   ABS_MT_POSITION_Y y[2]
> +   SYN_MT_SLOT 1
> +   ABS_MT_POSITION_X x[3]
> +   ABS_MT_POSITION_Y y[3]
> +   SYN_REPORT
>
> So, an EVIO for X driver to retrieve the number of SLOTs would be very
> helpful.  Something like the following would do the work:
>
> input_set_abs_params(input_dev, ABS_MT_SLOT, 0, 12, 0, 0);
>
> which tells the user land clients that they can expect up to 13 touch areas.
>
>> +The main difference between the raw type A protocol and the higher level
>> +type B slot protocol lies in the usage of identifiable contacts. The slot
>> +protocol requires the use of the ABS_MT_TRACKING_ID,
>
> With what I said above, I think ABS_MT_TRACKING_ID is not the unique
> identifier for type B protocol. It is the fact that we can identify
> individual touch areas and use ABS_MT_SLOT to report them that makes
> it a type B event.
>
>> ABS_MT_TRACKING_ID, either provided by the
>> +hardware of computed from the raw data [5].
>                     ^^ or  (is it?)
>
> I agree with this ABS_MT_TRACKING_ID definition.  I would think something like:
>
> input_set_abs_params(input_dev, ABS_MT_TRACKING_ID, 0, 47, 0, 0);
>
> which tells the clients that total of 48 points are tracked, would be helpful.
>
> Another topic that may be irrelevant to this patch is the filter. With
> the use of ABS_MT_TRACKING_ID, a filter can be applied to discard the
> useless repeated points or less than a certain number of points
> movement.
>

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-19 23:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-18 20:10 [PATCH] input: mt: Introduce MT event slots (rev 3) Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-18 20:10 ` [PATCH 2/2] input: mt: Document the MT event slot protocol (rev2) Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-19  2:37   ` Peter Hutterer
2010-05-19 12:12     ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-20  0:13       ` Peter Hutterer
2010-05-20  7:11         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-20 10:46           ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-20 10:40         ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-24  4:58           ` Peter Hutterer
2010-05-24  6:07             ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-24 10:03               ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-24 15:59               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-24 17:06                 ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-24 17:21                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-24 17:33                     ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-24 17:48                     ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-24 18:04                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-24 19:19                         ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-19 22:43   ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-19 23:34     ` Rafi Rubin [this message]
2010-05-20  0:13       ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-20  0:26         ` Rafi Rubin
2010-05-20  0:51           ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-20  1:03             ` Rafi Rubin
2010-05-20  4:18               ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-20  0:21       ` Peter Hutterer
2010-05-20  0:34         ` Rafi Rubin
2010-05-20  7:08     ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-20 22:19       ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-20 22:48         ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-21  3:35           ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-21 15:19         ` Rafi Rubin
2010-05-21 15:40           ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-21 21:25             ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-22  3:10               ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-24  5:25               ` Peter Hutterer
2010-05-24  5:48                 ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-24  6:15                   ` Peter Hutterer
2010-05-24  9:49                     ` Henrik Rydberg

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