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From: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
To: Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<xemul@parallels.com>, <paul@paulmenage.org>,
	<lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>, <daniel.lezcano@free.fr>,
	<jbottomley@parallels.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] Per-cgroup /proc/stat
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:37:49 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E7907AD.3030408@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E77CB30.3030509@google.com>

On 09/19/2011 08:07 PM, Paul Turner wrote:
> On 09/15/11 01:56, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 13:23 -0700, Andi Kleen wrote:
>>> Peter Zijlstra<a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> writes:
>>>>
>>>> Guys we should seriously trim back a lot of that code, not grow ever
>>>> more and more. The sad fact is that if you build a kernel with
>>>> cpu-cgroup support the context switch cost is more than double that
>>>> of a
>>>> kernel without, and then you haven't even started creating cgroups yet.
>>>
>>> That sounds indeed quite bad. Is it known why it is so costly?
>>
>> Mostly because all data structures grow and all code paths grow, some by
>> quite a bit, its spread all over the place, lots of little cuts etc..
>>
>> pjt and I tried trimming some of the code paths with static_branch() but
>> didn't really get anywhere.. need to get back to looking at this stuff
>> sometime soon.
>
> When I get some time I think I'm just going to post a patch[*] that
> merges the useful _field_ (usage, usage_percpu) from cpuacct into cpu
> since we are *already* doing the accounting on the entity level making
> this addition free.
agree.

> At that point we could !CONFIG_CGROUP_CPUACCT by default and deprecate
> the beast without breaking ABI for those who really need it (either
> because their applications have hard-coded paths or because they really
> like cgroup user/sys time -- which we COULD duplicate into cpu but I'm
> inclined not to).

Well, why ? Now that I look into it, one of the nice ways to achieve 
what I am proposing in this patchset is:
  1) get rid of cpuacct.
  2) do all accounting per-cpu cgroup, and then merge it to fs/proc/stat.c

> [*]: the only real caveat is how loudly people scream about the code
> duplication; I think it's worth it if it let's us kill cpuacct in the
> long run.

One way to deprecate it, is probably disallowing cpuacct to have any 
tasks written to its task file. We then expose whatever information 
there is in cpu/.

It may get ugly since we'll need to touch core cgroup code, but it is 
nice from a user PoV.

> Another unrelated optimization on this path I have sitting around in
> patches/ to push at some point is keeping the left-most entity out of
> tree; since the worst case is an entity with a lower-vruntime comes
> along and we insert the previous left-most and the best case is we get
> to pick it without futzing with the rb-tree. I think this was good for a
> percent or two when I hacked it together before.
>
> Another idea I have kicking around for this path is the introduction of
> a link_entity which bridges over nr_running=1 chains (break it
> opportunistically when an element in the chain goes to nr_running=2).
> This one requires some pretty careful accounting around the breaking of
> a chain though so I'm not touching it until I get the new load tracking
> code out. (Incidentally when I benchmarked it before LPC I had it
> working out to be a little more efficient than the current math good for
> ~2-3% on pipe_test.)
>
> - Paul


      parent reply	other threads:[~2011-09-20 21:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-14 20:04 Glauber Costa
2011-09-14 20:04 ` [PATCH 1/9] Remove parent field in cpuacct cgroup Glauber Costa
2011-09-19 16:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-19 16:09     ` Glauber Costa
2011-09-19 16:19       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-19 16:30         ` Glauber Costa
2011-09-19 16:39           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-19 16:41             ` Glauber Costa
2011-09-19 18:40               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-20 17:29                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-22 15:11                   ` Balbir Singh
2011-09-22 15:17                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-23  8:09                       ` Balbir Singh
2011-09-23 14:35                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-23 15:45                         ` Glauber Costa
2011-09-19 18:35           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-19 18:38             ` Glauber Costa
2011-09-19 18:44               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-19 19:14                 ` Glauber Costa
2011-09-19 19:18                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-19 19:19                     ` Glauber Costa
2011-09-14 20:04 ` [PATCH 2/9] Make cpuacct fields per cpu variables Glauber Costa
2011-09-19 16:10   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-14 20:04 ` [PATCH 3/9] Include nice values in cpuacct Glauber Costa
2011-09-19 16:19   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-19 16:26     ` Glauber Costa
2011-09-19 18:36       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-19 18:37         ` Glauber Costa
2011-09-14 20:04 ` [PATCH 4/9] Include irq and softirq fields " Glauber Costa
2011-09-19 18:38   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-19 18:40     ` Glauber Costa
2011-09-14 20:04 ` [PATCH 5/9] Include guest " Glauber Costa
2011-09-14 20:04 ` [PATCH 6/9] Include idle and iowait " Glauber Costa
2011-09-20  9:21   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-20 12:36     ` Glauber Costa
2011-09-20 12:58       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-20 12:58         ` Glauber Costa
2011-09-20 13:05           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-20 13:29             ` Glauber Costa
2011-09-14 20:04 ` [PATCH 7/9] Create cpuacct.proc.stat file Glauber Costa
2011-09-20  9:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-20 12:22     ` Glauber Costa
2011-09-14 20:04 ` [PATCH 8/9] per-cgroup boot time Glauber Costa
2011-09-20  9:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-20 12:37     ` Glauber Costa
2011-09-20 13:04       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-20 13:06         ` Glauber Costa
2011-09-20 13:31           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-14 20:04 ` [PATCH 9/9] Report steal time for cgroup Glauber Costa
2011-09-20  9:29   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-14 20:13 ` [PATCH 0/9] Per-cgroup /proc/stat Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-14 20:20   ` Glauber Costa
2011-09-15  8:53     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-14 20:23   ` Andi Kleen
2011-09-15  8:56     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-19 23:07       ` Paul Turner
2011-09-20  8:33         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-20 21:37         ` Glauber Costa [this message]

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