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From: Pierre Gondois <pierre.gondois@arm.com>
To: Sumit Gupta <sumitg@nvidia.com>,
	rafael@kernel.org, viresh.kumar@linaro.org,
	zhenglifeng1@huawei.com, ionela.voinescu@arm.com,
	lenb@kernel.org, robert.moore@intel.com, corbet@lwn.net,
	rdunlap@infradead.org, ray.huang@amd.com, gautham.shenoy@amd.com,
	mario.limonciello@amd.com, perry.yuan@amd.com,
	zhanjie9@hisilicon.com, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	acpica-devel@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org, treding@nvidia.com,
	jonathanh@nvidia.com, vsethi@nvidia.com, ksitaraman@nvidia.com,
	sanjayc@nvidia.com, nhartman@nvidia.com, bbasu@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 7/9] ACPI: CPPC: add APIs and sysfs interface for perf_limited
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2026 12:23:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4c76cbfc-2e7e-4937-a838-09c49440d3ad@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7d2ad4f1-7d04-4032-bff9-65eed15c7318@nvidia.com>


On 1/24/26 22:04, Sumit Gupta wrote:
>
> On 22/01/26 17:21, Pierre Gondois wrote:
>> External email: Use caution opening links or attachments
>>
>>
>> On 1/20/26 15:56, Sumit Gupta wrote:
>>> Add sysfs interface to read/write the Performance Limited register.
>>>
>>> The Performance Limited register indicates to the OS that an
>>> unpredictable event (like thermal throttling) has limited processor
>>> performance. It contains two sticky bits set by the platform:
>>>    - Bit 0 (Desired_Excursion): Set when delivered performance is
>>>      constrained below desired performance. Not used when Autonomous
>>>      Selection is enabled.
>>>    - Bit 1 (Minimum_Excursion): Set when delivered performance is
>>>      constrained below minimum performance.
>>>
>>> These bits remain set until OSPM explicitly clears them. The write
>>> operation accepts a bitmask of bits to clear:
>>>    - Write 0x1 to clear bit 0
>>>    - Write 0x2 to clear bit 1
>>>    - Write 0x3 to clear both bits
>>>
>>> This enables users to detect if platform throttling impacted a 
>>> workload.
>>> Users clear the register before execution, run the workload, then check
>>> afterward - if set, hardware throttling occurred during that time 
>>> window.
>>>
>>> The interface is exposed as:
>>>    /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuX/cpufreq/perf_limited
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Sumit Gupta <sumitg@nvidia.com>
>>> ---
>>>   drivers/acpi/cppc_acpi.c       | 56 
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>   drivers/cpufreq/cppc_cpufreq.c |  5 +++
>>>   include/acpi/cppc_acpi.h       | 15 +++++++++
>>>   3 files changed, 76 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/drivers/acpi/cppc_acpi.c b/drivers/acpi/cppc_acpi.c
>>> index 46bf45f8b0f3..b46f22f58f56 100644
>>> --- a/drivers/acpi/cppc_acpi.c
>>> +++ b/drivers/acpi/cppc_acpi.c
>>> @@ -1787,6 +1787,62 @@ int cppc_set_max_perf(int cpu, u32 max_perf)
>>>   }
>>>   EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(cppc_set_max_perf);
>>>
>>> +/**
>>> + * cppc_get_perf_limited - Get the Performance Limited register value.
>>> + * @cpu: CPU from which to get Performance Limited register.
>>> + * @perf_limited: Pointer to store the Performance Limited value.
>>> + *
>>> + * The returned value contains sticky status bits indicating 
>>> platform-imposed
>>> + * performance limitations.
>>> + *
>>> + * Return: 0 for success, -EIO on failure, -EOPNOTSUPP if not 
>>> supported.
>>> + */
>>> +int cppc_get_perf_limited(int cpu, u64 *perf_limited)
>>> +{
>>> +     return cppc_get_reg_val(cpu, PERF_LIMITED, perf_limited);
>>> +}
>>> +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(cppc_get_perf_limited);
>>> +
>>> +/**
>>> + * cppc_set_perf_limited() - Clear bits in the Performance Limited 
>>> register.
>>> + * @cpu: CPU on which to write register.
>>> + * @bits_to_clear: Bitmask of bits to clear in the perf_limited 
>>> register.
>>> + *
>>> + * The Performance Limited register contains two sticky bits set by 
>>> platform:
>>> + *   - Bit 0 (Desired_Excursion): Set when delivered performance is 
>>> constrained
>>> + *     below desired performance. Not used when Autonomous 
>>> Selection is enabled.
>>> + *   - Bit 1 (Minimum_Excursion): Set when delivered performance is 
>>> constrained
>>> + *     below minimum performance.
>>> + *
>>> + * These bits are sticky and remain set until OSPM explicitly 
>>> clears them.
>>> + * This function only allows clearing bits (the platform sets them).
>>> + *
>>> + * Return: 0 for success, -EINVAL for invalid bits, -EIO on register
>>> + *         access failure, -EOPNOTSUPP if not supported.
>>> + */
>>> +int cppc_set_perf_limited(int cpu, u64 bits_to_clear)
>>> +{
>>> +     u64 current_val, new_val;
>>> +     int ret;
>>> +
>>> +     /* Only bits 0 and 1 are valid */
>>> +     if (bits_to_clear & ~CPPC_PERF_LIMITED_MASK)
>>> +             return -EINVAL;
>>> +
>>> +     if (!bits_to_clear)
>>> +             return 0;
>>> +
>>> +     ret = cppc_get_perf_limited(cpu, &current_val);
>>> +     if (ret)
>>> +             return ret;
>>> +
>>> +     /* Clear the specified bits */
>>> +     new_val = current_val & ~bits_to_clear;
>>> +
>>> +     return cppc_set_reg_val(cpu, PERF_LIMITED, new_val);
>>> +}
>>> +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(cppc_set_perf_limited);
>>> +
>>>   /**
>>>    * cppc_set_enable - Set to enable CPPC on the processor by 
>>> writing the
>>>    * Continuous Performance Control package EnableRegister field.
>>> diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/cppc_cpufreq.c 
>>> b/drivers/cpufreq/cppc_cpufreq.c
>>> index 66e183b45fb0..afb2cdb67a2f 100644
>>> --- a/drivers/cpufreq/cppc_cpufreq.c
>>> +++ b/drivers/cpufreq/cppc_cpufreq.c
>>> @@ -1071,12 +1071,16 @@ static ssize_t store_max_perf(struct 
>>> cpufreq_policy *policy, const char *buf,
>>>       return count;
>>>   }
>>>
>>> +CPPC_CPUFREQ_ATTR_RW_U64(perf_limited, cppc_get_perf_limited,
>>> +                      cppc_set_perf_limited)
>>> +
>>>   cpufreq_freq_attr_ro(freqdomain_cpus);
>>>   cpufreq_freq_attr_rw(auto_select);
>>>   cpufreq_freq_attr_rw(auto_act_window);
>>>   cpufreq_freq_attr_rw(energy_performance_preference_val);
>>>   cpufreq_freq_attr_rw(min_perf);
>>>   cpufreq_freq_attr_rw(max_perf);
>>> +cpufreq_freq_attr_rw(perf_limited);
>>
>> If the OS wants to get regular feedback about whether the platform had
>> to limit
>> the perf. level, it will likely try to frequently probe the register.
>> In order to see new events, the register must be cleared. So:
>> - is it a good idea to allow users to write this register ?
>> - is it useful to expose this register if the OS frequently clears it ?
>>
>> I think the functions are useful, it might just be questionable to 
>> expose
>> the register in the sysfs.
>>
>
> Currently the kernel doesn't automatically poll or clear perf_limited,
> so sysfs exposure is for manual monitoring. I can make it read-only
> but then users can only observe throttling events and can't clear
> them (though bits stay sticky). So, better to expose as RW attribute.
>
Ok right



  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-26 11:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-20 14:56 [PATCH v6 0/9] Enhanced autonomous selection and improvements Sumit Gupta
2026-01-20 14:56 ` [PATCH v6 1/9] cpufreq: CPPC: Add generic helpers for sysfs show/store Sumit Gupta
2026-01-22  8:27   ` zhenglifeng (A)
2026-01-27 16:24   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-01-27 19:01     ` Sumit Gupta
2026-01-27 20:17       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-01-20 14:56 ` [PATCH v6 2/9] ACPI: CPPC: Clean up cppc_perf_caps and cppc_perf_ctrls structs Sumit Gupta
2026-01-22  8:28   ` zhenglifeng (A)
2026-01-27 16:27   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-01-27 19:11     ` Sumit Gupta
2026-01-20 14:56 ` [PATCH v6 3/9] ACPI: CPPC: Rename EPP constants for clarity Sumit Gupta
2026-01-22  8:31   ` zhenglifeng (A)
2026-01-20 14:56 ` [PATCH v6 4/9] ACPI: CPPC: Add cppc_get_perf() API to read performance controls Sumit Gupta
2026-01-22  8:56   ` zhenglifeng (A)
2026-01-22 11:30     ` Pierre Gondois
2026-01-22 11:42       ` zhenglifeng (A)
2026-01-24 20:05     ` Sumit Gupta
2026-01-24 20:19       ` Sumit Gupta
2026-01-26 11:20         ` Pierre Gondois
2026-01-27 11:08           ` Sumit Gupta
2026-01-20 14:56 ` [PATCH v6 5/9] ACPI: CPPC: Extend cppc_set_epp_perf() for FFH/SystemMemory Sumit Gupta
2026-01-22  9:18   ` zhenglifeng (A)
2026-01-24 20:08     ` Sumit Gupta
2026-01-26  8:10       ` zhenglifeng (A)
2026-01-27 11:17         ` Sumit Gupta
2026-01-20 14:56 ` [PATCH v6 6/9] ACPI: CPPC: add APIs and sysfs interface for min/max_perf Sumit Gupta
2026-01-22 11:36   ` Pierre Gondois
2026-01-24 20:32     ` Sumit Gupta
2026-01-26 10:51       ` Pierre Gondois
2026-01-27 11:22         ` Sumit Gupta
2026-01-22 12:35   ` zhenglifeng (A)
2026-01-24 20:52     ` Sumit Gupta
2026-01-20 14:56 ` [PATCH v6 7/9] ACPI: CPPC: add APIs and sysfs interface for perf_limited Sumit Gupta
2026-01-22 11:51   ` Pierre Gondois
2026-01-24 21:04     ` Sumit Gupta
2026-01-26 11:23       ` Pierre Gondois [this message]
2026-01-20 14:56 ` [PATCH v6 8/9] cpufreq: CPPC: Add sysfs for min/max_perf and perf_limited Sumit Gupta
2026-01-20 14:56 ` [PATCH v6 9/9] cpufreq: CPPC: Update cached perf_ctrls on sysfs write Sumit Gupta

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