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From: Paolo Ciarrocchi <paolo.ciarrocchi@gmail.com>
To: John Richard Moser <nigelenki@comcast.net>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
	"Randy.Dunlap" <rddunlap@osdl.org>,
	alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Let's make a small change to the process
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:00:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4d8e3fd304102614002285559e@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <417EB83B.90707@comcast.net>

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:48:59 -0400, John Richard Moser
<nigelenki@comcast.net> wrote:
[...]
> 
> | We, of course, need a maintainer for it,
> 
> Yes, a little too much to maintain though isn't it?  Maintainers to
> continuously upkeep revisions that come out every few weeks potentially?
> ~ Remember it's got to be able to withstand the test of time for quite a
> while; why are people still maintaining 2.2?
> 
> | maybe someone from OSDL (Randy?), maybe wli (he maintained his tree
> | for a long time), maybe Alan (that is already applying these kind of
> | fixes to his tree), maybe someone else... ?
> |
> 
> Common courteousy, don't volunteer people.  :)

Just wrote name a few "famous" and "great" kernel hackers :)
 
> | Sounds reasonable ?
> |
> 
> Sounds too fast.  I don't predict having a maintainer for each minor
> release of the kernel (which is what you're saying here essentially), so
> there'd be a need for one or a handfull of maintainers to spend loads of
> time backporting fixes to a quickly mounting set of kernels.

Yes, one maintainer.
But I'm not sure that each minor release of ther kernel needs a .Y version.
 
> I had <shameless plug> suggested an hour or two ago a scheme where the
> current development model be based off, but periodic releases be made
> "stable," basing on approximately 6 months between releases </shameless
> plug>.  I think it's a bit more sane to say that a maintainer may mount
> up 4 kernels in 2 years to backport bugfixes into, if nobody else steps
> up to the plate to help.
> 
> Of course, eventually official support has to be dropped in either
> scheme, because the same problem is faced:  We can't expect people to
> maintain a continuously mounting number of kernel revisions once the
> workload becomes sufficiently high.  A balance must be made between
> dropping support for a non-volitile code base, and maintaining a support
> period sufficiently long.

Not sure I get your point.
Again,
-ac is almost what I'm suggesting but I'd prefer to change it's name
and formalize it publishing the .Y patchset to kernel,org with a name
useful for the users.

Time to sleep now,
I'll flight to Germany tomorrow so I'll be offline till Tuesday. 
But hey, you don't need me anymore ;-)

-- 
Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-26 21:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-26  5:40 My thoughts on the "new development model" Chuck Ebbert
2004-10-26 10:44 ` Ed Tomlinson
2004-10-26 11:09   ` Massimo Cetra
2004-10-26 12:08     ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-10-26 19:03       ` Mathieu Segaud
2004-10-26 20:16         ` Let's make a small change to the process Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-10-26 20:22           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-26 20:26             ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-10-26 20:33               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-26 20:36           ` Dave Jones
2004-10-26 20:44             ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-10-27  0:51               ` Jan Knutar
2004-10-26 20:48           ` John Richard Moser
2004-10-26 21:00             ` Paolo Ciarrocchi [this message]
2004-10-26 15:03     ` My thoughts on the "new development model" William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-26 21:19     ` Ed Tomlinson
2004-10-27  3:05       ` Marcos D. Marado Torres
2004-10-27  4:29         ` Rik van Riel
2004-10-27  5:13           ` Willy Tarreau
2004-10-27  5:23             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-27  6:04               ` Willy Tarreau
2004-10-27  6:28                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-27  6:50                   ` Massimo Cetra
2004-10-27  6:56                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-11-16 16:43                     ` Bill Davidsen
2004-10-27 13:48               ` John Richard Moser
2004-10-27 14:57                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-10-27 15:35                   ` John Richard Moser
2004-10-27 19:46                     ` Marcos D. Marado Torres
2004-10-27 21:08                       ` John Richard Moser
2004-10-27 21:14                         ` Rik van Riel
2004-10-27 17:55                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-27 13:38             ` John Richard Moser
2004-10-27  5:25         ` John Richard Moser
2004-10-28  6:46           ` michael
2004-10-28  7:13             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-28  7:28             ` Hacksaw
2004-10-29 21:30               ` Adrian Bunk
2004-10-28  7:57             ` Massimo Cetra
2004-10-28 16:14             ` John Richard Moser
2004-10-28 17:27               ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-10-28 23:19               ` michael
2004-10-29  0:02                 ` John Richard Moser
2004-10-27  4:26       ` Rik van Riel
2004-11-16 16:18       ` Bill Davidsen
2004-10-26 12:37   ` Barry K. Nathan
2004-10-26 14:40     ` Espen Fjellvær Olsen
2004-10-26 14:28   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-26 14:41   ` Gene Heskett
2004-10-26 14:24 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-27 15:27 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-27  2:17 Let's make a small change to the process Chuck Ebbert
2004-10-27 15:05 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-27 20:38   ` Bill Davidsen
2004-10-27 19:50 Chuck Ebbert

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