mirror of https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>
To: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>,
	bp@alien8.de, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, dsterba@suse.com,
	hpa@zytor.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	terrelln@fb.com, tglx@kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, riel@surriel.com, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
	kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/lib: Use REP MOVSB for large memcpy() on ERMS CPUs without FSRM
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2026 22:44:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5027b93f-e6a8-4324-b96c-5ed6f941ca99@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261103221325.789ff51a@pumpkin>



[...]

>>>> diff --git a/arch/x86/lib/memcpy_64.S b/arch/x86/lib/memcpy_64.S
>>>> index 12a23fa7c44c5..407b226d4de2f 100644
>>>> --- a/arch/x86/lib/memcpy_64.S
>>>> +++ b/arch/x86/lib/memcpy_64.S
>>>> @@ -31,24 +31,27 @@
>>>>   * which the compiler could/should do much better anyway.
>>>>   */
>>>>  SYM_TYPED_FUNC_START(__memcpy)
>>>> -	ALTERNATIVE "jmp memcpy_orig", "", X86_FEATURE_FSRM
>>>> -
>>>>  	movq %rdi, %rax
>>>>  	movq %rdx, %rcx
>>>> -	rep movsb
>>>> -	RET
>>>> -SYM_FUNC_END(__memcpy)
>>>> -EXPORT_SYMBOL(__memcpy)
>>>> -
>>>> -SYM_FUNC_ALIAS_MEMFUNC(memcpy, __memcpy)
>>>> -SYM_PIC_ALIAS(memcpy)
>>>> -EXPORT_SYMBOL(memcpy)
>>>>  
>>>> -SYM_FUNC_START_LOCAL(memcpy_orig)
>>>> -	movq %rdi, %rax
>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_MITIGATION_ITS
>>>> +	/*
>>>> +	 * Returns are patched before alternatives. Keep the replacement
>>>> +	 * return in the first half of a cache line so ITS retains its thunk
>>>> +	 * when the instruction is copied to its final address.  
>>>
>>> I'm not 100% sure what that is about, but does it mean that the cache line
>>> alignment of the code here also matters?  
>>
>> Not the alignment of __memcpy() itself, only that of the replacement in
>> .altinstr_replacement.
>>
>> On ITS affected CPUs, a RET in the lower 32 bytes of a 64-byte cache
>> line needs mitigation, so apply_returns() leaves such sites as a jump to
>> its_return_thunk, whose own RET is in the upper half, and turns the rest
>> into a plain RET. It runs before apply_alternatives(), so for the RET in
>> the FSRM replacement it decides from the replacement's address, not from
>> where the code is copied to. A plain RET could then end up in the lower
>> half of a line in __memcpy().
> 
> So the RET in the replacement is in the first half a cache line- so becomes a ret.
> But, unless __memcpy() is aligned, the relocated RET might be in the second
> half so would need mitigating - but you copy in a mitigation-free ret.

It's the other way round: a RET in the first half keeps the jump to
its_return_thunk, see cpu_wants_rethunk_at():

        return !((unsigned long)addr & 0x20);

So the copy is the thunk jump, which is safe in either half.

> 
> If that is the only mitigation then wouldn't aligning memcpy mean you could
> just use a ret (possibly followed by an 'int 3' - or whatever is the 'flavour
> of the month' instruction for stopping SLS).

It isn't the only one: with the retbleed, SRSO or call depth tracking
thunk every return needs it, so the code has to use RET and let
apply_returns() pick. For ITS alone, aligning __memcpy() would save one
direct jump on FSRM CPUs with ITS (Ice Lake to Rocket Lake), which I
don't think is worth it.

[...]

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-03 22:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-13 10:04 Usama Arif
2026-10-15 10:39 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-10-17 19:27   ` Usama Arif
2026-10-21  9:54     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-10-21 18:18       ` Linus Torvalds
2026-10-22  8:49         ` David Laight
2026-11-02 23:03           ` Usama Arif
2026-11-03  8:32             ` David Laight
2026-11-03 14:14               ` Usama Arif
2026-11-03 22:13                 ` David Laight
2026-11-03 22:44                   ` Usama Arif [this message]
2026-10-17 21:42 ` David Laight

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=5027b93f-e6a8-4324-b96c-5ed6f941ca99@linux.dev \
    --to=usama.arif@linux.dev \
    --cc=bp@alien8.de \
    --cc=dave.hansen@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=david.laight.linux@gmail.com \
    --cc=dsterba@suse.com \
    --cc=hannes@cmpxchg.org \
    --cc=hpa@zytor.com \
    --cc=kas@kernel.org \
    --cc=kernel-team@meta.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mingo@redhat.com \
    --cc=riel@surriel.com \
    --cc=shakeel.butt@linux.dev \
    --cc=terrelln@fb.com \
    --cc=tglx@kernel.org \
    --cc=torvalds@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=x86@kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox

all inboxes | Powered by JetHome®