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From: Wen Congyang <wency@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Jiang Liu <jiang.liu@huawei.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Yasuaki ISIMATU <isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Hillf Danton <dhillf@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [V5 PATCH 05/26] node_states: introduce N_MEMORY
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:03:36 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5090CD48.30604@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1210291342090.18552@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

At 10/30/2012 04:46 AM, David Rientjes Wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2012, Lai Jiangshan wrote:
> 
>> We have N_NORMAL_MEMORY for standing for the nodes that have normal memory with
>> zone_type <= ZONE_NORMAL.
>>
>> And we have N_HIGH_MEMORY for standing for the nodes that have normal or high
>> memory.
>>
> 
> (In other words, all memory.)
> 
>> But we don't have any word to stand for the nodes that have *any* memory.
>>
> 
> It's N_HIGH_MEMORY, or at least it's supposed to be.  Is there a problem 
> where the bit isn't getting set for a node with memory?
> 
>> A)	But this reusing is bad for *readability*. Because the name
>> 	N_HIGH_MEMORY just stands for high or normal:
>>
>> A.example 1)
>> 	mem_cgroup_nr_lru_pages():
>> 		for_each_node_state(nid, N_HIGH_MEMORY)
>>
>> 	The user will be confused(why this function just counts for high or
>> 	normal memory node? does it counts for ZONE_MOVABLE's lru pages?)
>> 	until someone else tell them N_HIGH_MEMORY is reused to stand for
>> 	nodes that have any memory.
>>
>> A.cont) If we introduce N_MEMORY, we can reduce this confusing
>> 	AND make the code more clearly:
>>
>> A.example 2) mm/page_cgroup.c use N_HIGH_MEMORY twice:
>>
>> 	One is in page_cgroup_init(void):
>> 		for_each_node_state(nid, N_HIGH_MEMORY) {
>>
>> 	It means if the node have memory, we will allocate page_cgroup map for
>> 	the node. We should use N_MEMORY instead here to gaim more clearly.
>>
>> 	The second using is in alloc_page_cgroup():
>> 		if (node_state(nid, N_HIGH_MEMORY))
>> 			addr = vzalloc_node(size, nid);
>>
>> 	It means if the node has high or normal memory that can be allocated
>> 	from kernel. We should keep N_HIGH_MEMORY here, and it will be better
>> 	if the "any memory" semantic of N_HIGH_MEMORY is removed.
>>
>> B)	This reusing is out-dated if we introduce MOVABLE-dedicated node.
>> 	The MOVABLE-dedicated node should not appear in
>> 	node_stats[N_HIGH_MEMORY] nor node_stats[N_NORMAL_MEMORY],
>> 	because MOVABLE-dedicated node has no high or normal memory.
>>
>> 	In x86_64, N_HIGH_MEMORY=N_NORMAL_MEMORY, if a MOVABLE-dedicated node
>> 	is in node_stats[N_HIGH_MEMORY], it is also means it is in
>> 	node_stats[N_NORMAL_MEMORY], it causes SLUB wrong.
>>
>> 	The slub uses
>> 		for_each_node_state(nid, N_NORMAL_MEMORY)
>> 	and creates kmem_cache_node for MOVABLE-dedicated node and cause problem.
>>
>> In one word, we need a N_MEMORY. We just intrude it as an alias to
>> N_HIGH_MEMORY and fix all im-proper usages of N_HIGH_MEMORY in late patches.
>>
> 
> If this is really that problematic (and it appears it's not given that 
> there are many use cases of it and people tend to get it right), then why 
> not simply rename N_HIGH_MEMORY instead of introducing yet another 
> nodemask to the equation?

The reason is that we need a node which only contains movable memory. This
feature is very important for node hotplug. So we will add a new nodemask
for movable memory. N_MEMORY contains movable memory but N_HIGH_MEMORY
doesn't contain it.

Thanks
Wen Congyang

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-31  7:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-29 15:07 [V5 PATCH 00/26] mm, memory-hotplug: dynamic configure movable memory and introduce movable node Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-29 15:07 ` [V5 PATCH 01/26] mm, memory-hotplug: dynamic configure movable memory and portion memory Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-29 15:20 ` [V5 PATCH 02/26] memory_hotplug: handle empty zone when online_movable/online_kernel Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-29 15:20 ` [V5 PATCH 03/26] memory_hotplug: ensure every online node has NORMAL memory Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-29 15:20 ` [V5 PATCH 04/26] node: cleanup node_state_attr Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-29 15:20 ` [V5 PATCH 05/26] node_states: introduce N_MEMORY Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-29 20:46   ` David Rientjes
2012-10-31  7:03     ` Wen Congyang [this message]
2012-10-29 15:20 ` [V5 PATCH 06/26] cpuset: use N_MEMORY instead N_HIGH_MEMORY Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-29 15:20 ` [V5 PATCH 07/26] procfs: " Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-29 15:20 ` [V5 PATCH 08/26] memcontrol: " Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-29 16:22   ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-29 20:40     ` David Rientjes
2012-10-29 20:58       ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-29 21:08         ` David Rientjes
2012-10-29 21:34           ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-31 13:18   ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-29 15:20 ` [V5 PATCH 09/26] oom: " Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-29 15:21 ` [V5 PATCH 10/26] mm,migrate: " Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-29 15:21 ` [V5 PATCH 11/26] mempolicy: " Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-29 15:21 ` [V5 PATCH 12/26] hugetlb: " Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-29 15:21 ` [V5 PATCH 13/26] vmstat: " Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-29 15:21 ` [V5 PATCH 14/26] kthread: " Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-29 15:21 ` [V5 PATCH 15/26] init: " Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-29 15:21 ` [V5 PATCH 16/26] vmscan: " Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-29 15:21 ` [V5 PATCH 17/26] page_alloc: use N_MEMORY instead N_HIGH_MEMORY change the node_states initialization Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-29 15:21 ` [V5 PATCH 18/26] hotplug: update nodemasks management Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-29 15:21 ` [V5 PATCH 19/26] numa: add CONFIG_MOVABLE_NODE for movable-dedicated node Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-29 15:21 ` [V5 PATCH 20/26] memory_hotplug: allow online/offline memory to result movable node Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-29 15:21 ` [V5 PATCH 21/26] page_alloc: add kernelcore_max_addr Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-29 15:21 ` [V5 PATCH 22/26] x86: get pg_data_t's memory from other node Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-29 15:21 ` [V5 PATCH 23/26] x86: use memblock_set_current_limit() to set memblock.current_limit Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-29 15:21 ` [V5 PATCH 24/26] memblock: limit memory address from memblock Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-29 15:21 ` [V5 PATCH 25/26] memblock: compare current_limit with end variable at memblock_find_in_range_node() Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-29 15:21 ` [V5 PATCH 26/26] mempolicy: fix is_valid_nodemask() Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-30  9:50 ` [V5 PATCH 00/26] mm, memory-hotplug: dynamic configure movable memory and introduce movable node Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2012-10-31  9:30   ` Wen Congyang

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