From: Yin Li <yin.li@oss.qualcomm.com>
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/8] dt-bindings: arm: Add MPAM MSC binding
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2026 18:24:06 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51bc6576-7e52-4685-b7b2-a355c2b7e1ae@oss.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2eddfb6d-c622-4d72-827e-aed685e72b9c@oss.qualcomm.com>
On 10/12/2026 3:05 PM, Yin Li wrote:
>
>
> On 10/9/2026 5:27 AM, Rob Herring wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 08, 2026 at 02:41:12PM +0800, Yin Li wrote:
>>> From: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
>>>
>>> The binding is designed around the assumption that an MSC will be a
>>> sub-block of something else such as a memory controller, cache
>>> controller,
>>> or IOMMU. However, it's certainly possible a design does not have that
>>> association or has a mixture of both, so the binding illustrates how
>>> we can
>>> support that with RIS child nodes.
>>>
>>> A key part of MPAM is we need to know about all of the MSCs in the
>>> system
>>> before it can be enabled. This drives the need for the genericish
>>> 'arm,mpam-msc' compatible. Though we can't assume an MSC is accessible
>>> until a h/w specific driver potentially enables the h/w.
>>>
>>> Cc: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
>>> Signed-off-by: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
>>> [ Yin Li and Huang Yiwei: use oneOf for the compatible to allow both
>>> standalone arm,mpam-msc and the two-item combination; fix schema
>>> field
>>> order, type constraints and yamllint spacing; fix example reg
>>> addresses,
>>> add arm,mpam-device phandle and remove TODO comment ]
>>> Co-developed-by: Huang Yiwei <huang.yiwei@oss.qualcomm.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Huang Yiwei <huang.yiwei@oss.qualcomm.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Yin Li <yin.li@oss.qualcomm.com>
>>> ---
>>> .../devicetree/bindings/arm/arm,mpam-msc.yaml | 202 ++++++++++
>>> +++++++++++
>>> 1 file changed, 202 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/arm,mpam-msc.yaml
>>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/arm,mpam-msc.yaml
>>> new file mode 100644
>>> index 000000000000..3c7b13a23ff2
>>> --- /dev/null
>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/arm,mpam-msc.yaml
>>> @@ -0,0 +1,202 @@
>>> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-only OR BSD-2-Clause
>>> +%YAML 1.2
>>> +---
>>> +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/arm/arm,mpam-msc.yaml#
>>> +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
>>> +
>>> +title: Arm Memory System Resource Partitioning and Monitoring (MPAM)
>>> +
>>> +maintainers:
>>> + - Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
>>> +
>>> +description: |
>>> + The Arm MPAM specification can be found here:
>>> +
>>> + https://developer.arm.com/documentation/ddi0598/latest
>>> +
>>> +properties:
>>> + compatible:
>>> + oneOf:
>>> + - const: arm,mpam-msc # Further details are
>>> discoverable
>>> + - items:
>>> + - const: arm,mpam-memory-controller-msc
>>
>> Why do we need this?
>>
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> Thanks for the review.
>
> The 'arm,mpam-memory-controller-msc' compatible is needed because,
> unlike cache MSCs, memory controller MSCs cannot rely on the parent node
> to identify the resource type.
>
> Cache controllers universally carry a 'cache' compatible, so the driver
> can recognise any cache parent and derive the cache ID from standard
> properties. No equivalent convention exists for memory controllers, and
> the component ID comes from the MSC's own 'numa-node-id' rather than the
> parent, so there is no parent attribute to rely on.
>
Hi Rob,
As a follow-up to my previous reply:
Whatever the outcome of the discussion on "arm_mpam: Add support for
memory controller MSC on DT platforms", we will keep the binding and
driver support consistent. If it's dropped, the
'arm,mpam-memory-controller-msc' compatible, 'numa-node-id' property,
and the memory controller example will be removed together.
Thanks,
Yin
> 'arm,mpam-memory-controller-msc' provides the explicit declaration that
> this MSC controls memory. It is used in "arm_mpam: Add support for
> memory controller MSC on DT platforms".
>
> On 'oneOf': the original 'items' form requires both strings to be
> present, which is not appropriate for cache MSCs. Andre also noted this
> in RFC v2, so we changed it to 'oneOf'.
>
>>> + - const: arm,mpam-msc
>>> +
>>> + reg:
>>> + maxItems: 1
>>> + description: A memory region containing registers as defined in
>>> the MPAM
>>> + specification.
>>> +
>>> + interrupts:
>>> + minItems: 1
>>> + items:
>>> + - description: error (optional)
>>> + - description: overflow (optional, only for monitoring)
>>> +
>>> + interrupt-names:
>>> + oneOf:
>>> + - items:
>>> + - enum: [error, overflow]
>>> + - items:
>>> + - const: error
>>> + - const: overflow
>>
>> This can be expressed as:
>>
>> minItems: 1
>> items:
>> - enum: [error, overflow]
>> - const: overflow
>>
>
> Agreed, will update.
>
>>> +
>>> + arm,not-ready-us:
>>> + description: The maximum time in microseconds for monitoring
>>> data to be
>>> + accurate after a settings change. For more information, see the
>>> + Not-Ready (NRDY) bit description in the MPAM specification.
>>> +
>>> + numa-node-id:
>>> + $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint32
>>> + description: NUMA node identifier for the memory resource this
>>> MSC controls.
>>> +
>>> + '#address-cells':
>>> + const: 1
>>> +
>>> + '#size-cells':
>>> + const: 0
>>> +
>>> +patternProperties:
>>> + '^ris@[0-9a-f]+$':
>>
>> Based on the 'reg' constraints, drop the '+'.
>
> Agreed, will update.
>
>>
>>> + type: object
>>> + additionalProperties: false
>>> + description:
>>> + RIS nodes for each resource instance in an MSC. These nodes
>>> are required
>>> + for each resource instance implementing known MPAM controls
>>> +
>>> + properties:
>>> + compatible:
>>> + enum:
>>> + - arm,mpam-cache
>>> + # Memory bandwidth
>>> + - arm,mpam-memory
>>> +
>>> + reg:
>>> + minimum: 0
>>> + maximum: 0xf
>>> +
>>> + cpus:
>>> + $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/phandle-array
>>
>> Drop. 'cpus' has a type already.
>>
>
> Agreed, will update.
>
>>> + description:
>>> + Phandle(s) to the CPU node(s) this RIS belongs to. By
>>> default, the
>>> + parent device's affinity is used.
>>> +
>>> + arm,mpam-device:
>>> + $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/phandle
>>> + description:
>>> + By default, the MPAM enabled device associated with a RIS
>>> is the MSC's
>>> + parent node. It is possible for each RIS to be associated
>>> with
>>> + different devices in which case 'arm,mpam-device' should
>>> be used.
>>
>> We should drop this until there's a use for it.
>>
>
> On 'arm,mpam-device': we believe this property is structurally
> necessary. The MPAM specification (IHI0099B) states:
> "Resource instance selection (RIS) allows an MPAM MSC to support
> multiple resources, including multiple resources using the same
> resource type or partitioning control. When RIS is implemented, an
> MPAM MSC must implement independent resource controls and two or
> more resources of the same type."
>
> Once an MSC implements RIS, it must support ≥ 2 resources of the same
> type (a spec requirement). An MSC node has only one parent, so the
> association between each RIS and its corresponding device cannot be
> expressed through a shared parent alone. A per-RIS explicit association
> mechanism is therefore needed, and 'arm,mpam-device' is designed for
> exactly this purpose.
>
> The property is used in the immediately following patch "arm_mpam: Add
> device tree support for MSC probing". If you have a different view on
> this design, we are happy to discuss further.
>
>
>>> +
>>> + required:
>>> + - compatible
>>> + - reg
>>> +
>>> +required:
>>> + - compatible
>>> + - reg
>>> +
>>> +dependencies:
>>> + interrupts: [interrupt-names]
>>> +
>>> +additionalProperties: false
>>> +
>>> +examples:
>>> + - |
>>> + L3: cache-controller@30000000 {
>>> + compatible = "foo,a-l3-cache", "cache";
>>> + cache-level = <3>;
>>> + cache-unified;
>>> +
>>> + ranges = <0x0 0x30000000 0x800000>;
>>> + #address-cells = <1>;
>>> + #size-cells = <1>;
>>> +
>>> + msc@10000 {
>>> + compatible = "arm,mpam-msc";
>>> + reg = <0x10000 0x2000>;
>>> + interrupts = <1>, <2>;
>>> + interrupt-names = "error", "overflow";
>>> + arm,not-ready-us = <1>;
>>> + /* CPU affinity implied by parent cache node */
>>> + };
>>> + };
>>> +
>>> + mem: memory-controller@20000 {
>>> + compatible = "foo,a-memory-controller";
>>> + reg = <0x20000 0x1000>;
>>> +
>>> + #address-cells = <1>;
>>> + #size-cells = <1>;
>>> + ranges;
>>> +
>>> + msc@21000 {
>>> + compatible = "arm,mpam-memory-controller-msc",
>>> "arm,mpam-msc";
>>> + reg = <0x21000 0x1000>;
>>> + interrupts = <3>;
>>> + interrupt-names = "error";
>>> + arm,not-ready-us = <1>;
>>> + numa-node-id = <1>;
>>> + };
>>> + };
>>> +
>>> + iommu@40000 {
>>> + reg = <0x40000 0x1000>;
>>> +
>>> + ranges;
>>> + #address-cells = <1>;
>>> + #size-cells = <1>;
>>> +
>>> + msc@41000 {
>>> + compatible = "arm,mpam-msc";
>>> + reg = <0x41000 0x1000>;
>>> + interrupts = <5>, <6>;
>>> + interrupt-names = "error", "overflow";
>>> + arm,not-ready-us = <1>;
>>> +
>>> + #address-cells = <1>;
>>> + #size-cells = <0>;
>>> +
>>> + ris@2 {
>>> + compatible = "arm,mpam-cache";
>>> + reg = <2>;
>>> + arm,mpam-device = <&L3>;
>>> + };
>>> + };
>>> + };
>>> +
>>> + msc@80000 {
>>> + compatible = "foo,a-standalone-msc";
>>> + reg = <0x80000 0x1000>;
>>> +
>>> + clocks = <&clks 123>;
>>> +
>>> + ranges;
>>> + #address-cells = <1>;
>>> + #size-cells = <1>;
>>> +
>>> + msc@10000 {
>>> + compatible = "arm,mpam-msc";
>>> + reg = <0x10000 0x2000>;
>>> + interrupts = <7>;
>>> + interrupt-names = "overflow";
>>> + arm,not-ready-us = <1>;
>>> +
>>> + #address-cells = <1>;
>>> + #size-cells = <0>;
>>> +
>>> + ris@0 {
>>> + compatible = "arm,mpam-cache";
>>> + reg = <0>;
>>> + arm,mpam-device = <&L2_0>;
>>> + };
>>> +
>>> + ris@1 {
>>> + compatible = "arm,mpam-memory";
>>> + reg = <1>;
>>> + arm,mpam-device = <&mem>;
>>> + };
>>> + };
>>> + };
>>> +
>>> +...
>>>
>>> --
>>> 2.34.1
>>>
>
--
Thx and BRs,
Yin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-12 10:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-08 6:41 [PATCH v3 0/8] arm-mpam: Add basic device tree support for resctrl Yin Li
2026-10-08 6:41 ` [PATCH v3 1/8] arm_mpam: Fix the RIS index range check in mpam_ris_create_locked Yin Li
2026-10-08 6:41 ` [PATCH v3 2/8] arm_mpam: Fix MSC MMIO window size off-by-one with resource_size() Yin Li
2026-10-08 6:41 ` [PATCH v3 3/8] dt-bindings: arm: Add MPAM MSC binding Yin Li
2026-10-08 21:27 ` Rob Herring
2026-10-12 7:05 ` Yin Li
2026-10-12 10:24 ` Yin Li [this message]
2026-10-08 6:41 ` [PATCH v3 4/8] cacheinfo: Expose the code to generate a cache-id from a device_node Yin Li
2026-10-08 6:41 ` [PATCH v3 5/8] arm_mpam: Add device tree support for MSC probing Yin Li
2026-10-08 6:41 ` [PATCH v3 6/8] arm_mpam: Add support for memory controller MSC on DT platforms Yin Li
2026-10-08 21:29 ` Rob Herring
2026-10-12 10:11 ` Yin Li
2026-10-08 6:41 ` [PATCH v3 7/8] arm_mpam: Support MSC accessibility derivation from RIS nodes Yin Li
2026-10-08 6:41 ` [PATCH DNM v3 8/8] arm64: dts: qcom: kaanapali: Add MPAM MSC nodes for the L2 caches Yin Li
2026-10-08 21:00 ` Rob Herring
2026-10-12 10:48 ` Yin Li
2026-10-12 11:27 ` Ben Horgan
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