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From: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr.bueso@hp.com>,
	Alex Shi <alex.shi@intel.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Matthew R Wilcox <matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	"Chandramouleeswaran, Aswin" <aswin@hp.com>,
	"Norton, Scott J" <scott.norton@hp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rwsem: reduce spinlock contention in wakeup code path
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:58:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52499FA5.60701@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFyZqV_wJTpd9OVw=kM157Q45byW2F3kjhr5ML5Npz84OA@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/28/2013 03:33 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Ingo Molnar<mingo@kernel.org>  wrote:
>> If we do that then I suspect the next step will be queued rwlocks :-/ The
>> current rwlock_t implementation is rather primitive by modern standards.
>> (We'd probably have killed rwlock_t long ago if not for the
>> tasklist_lock.)
> Yeah, I'm not happy about or rwlocks. That's one lock that currently
> is so broken that I think we could easily argue for making that one
> queued.
>
> Waiman had a qrwlock series that looked reasonable, and I think his
> later versions were drop-in replacements (ie they automatically just
> did the RightThing(tm) wrt interrupts taking a recursive read lock - I
> objected to the first versions that required that to be stated
> explicitly).

The latest version (v3) will allow recursive read lock in interrupt 
handlers.

> I think Waiman's patches (even the later ones) made the queued rwlocks
> be a side-by-side implementation with the old rwlocks, and I think
> that was just being unnecessarily careful. It might be useful for
> testing to have a config option to switch between the two, but we
> might as well go all the way.

It is not actually a side-by-side implementation. A user can choose 
either regular rwlock or the queue one, but never both by setting a 
configuration parameter. However, I now think that maybe we should do it 
the lockref way by pre-determining it on a per-architecture level 
without user visible configuration option.

-Longman

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-09-30 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-27 19:00 Waiman Long
2013-09-27 19:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-27 19:39   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-09-27 21:49     ` Tim Chen
2013-09-28  6:45       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-28  7:41   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-28 18:55     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-28 19:13       ` Andi Kleen
2013-09-28 19:22         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-28 19:21       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-28 19:33         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-28 19:39           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-30 10:44           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-30 16:13             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-30 16:41               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-01  7:28                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-01  8:09                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-01  8:25                     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-30 15:58           ` Waiman Long [this message]
2013-10-01  7:33             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-01 20:03               ` Waiman Long
2013-09-28 19:37         ` [PATCH] anon_vmas: Convert the rwsem to an rwlock_t Ingo Molnar
2013-09-28 19:43           ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-28 19:46             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-28 19:52             ` [PATCH, v2] " Ingo Molnar
2013-09-30 11:00               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-30 11:44               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-30 17:03               ` Andrew Morton
2013-09-30 17:25                 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-30 17:10               ` Tim Chen
2013-09-30 18:14                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-30 19:23                   ` Tim Chen
2013-09-30 19:35                     ` Waiman Long
2013-09-30 19:47                       ` Tim Chen
2013-09-30 22:03                         ` Tim Chen
2013-10-01  2:41                         ` Waiman Long
2013-09-30  8:52           ` [PATCH] " Andrea Arcangeli
2013-09-30 14:40             ` Jerome Glisse
2013-09-30 16:26             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-30 19:16               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2013-09-30 18:21             ` Andi Kleen
2013-09-30 19:04               ` Jerome Glisse
2013-09-29 23:06       ` [PATCH] rwsem: reduce spinlock contention in wakeup code path Davidlohr Bueso
2013-09-29 23:26         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-30  0:40           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-09-30  0:51             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-30  6:57           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-30  1:11       ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-09-30  7:05         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-30 16:03           ` Waiman Long
2013-09-30 10:46       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-01  7:48         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-01  8:10           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-27 19:32 ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-28  0:46   ` Waiman Long

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