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From: Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>
To: "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: x86@kernel.org, dave.hansen@intel.com, bp@alien8.de,
	kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@redhat.com, hpa@zytor.com, luto@kernel.org,
	peterz@infradead.org, rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com,
	ashish.kalra@amd.com, chao.gao@intel.com, bhe@redhat.com,
	nik.borisov@suse.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, seanjc@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/5] x86/kexec: do unconditional WBINVD for bare-metal in relocate_kernel()
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2024 09:25:39 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <533c2f6a-9cb2-6d25-c8a0-0643c6862d9b@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a5948fe2-afbb-4b8c-a83c-0be55a823c53@intel.com>

On 4/10/24 17:55, Huang, Kai wrote:
> On 11/04/2024 4:21 am, Tom Lendacky wrote:
>> On 4/7/24 07:44, Kai Huang wrote:

>>> @@ -160,9 +160,13 @@ SYM_CODE_START_LOCAL_NOALIGN(identity_mapped)
>>>       movq    %r9, %cr3
>>>       /*
>>> -     * If SME is active, there could be old encrypted cache line
>>> -     * entries that will conflict with the now unencrypted memory
>>> -     * used by kexec. Flush the caches before copying the kernel.
>>> +     * The kernel could leave caches in incoherent state on SME/TDX
>>> +     * capable platforms.  Just do unconditional WBINVD to avoid
>>> +     * silent memory corruption to the new kernel for these platforms.
>>> +     *
>>> +     * But only do WBINVD for bare-metal because TDX guests and
>>> +     * SEV-ES/SEV-SNP guests will get #VE which the kernel is unable
>>> +     * to handle at this stage.
>>
>> Similar comment here about doing an unconditional WBINVD, but then 
>> qualifying that as only on guests. This is where talking about how 
>> exception handling has been torn down would be good.
>>
> 
> OK.
> 
> Thinking again, also it might be a good idea to not lose the existing 
> comment for SME, because it somehow justifies why we do WBINVD _HERE_ I 
> suppose?
> 
> How about below?
> 
>      /*
>       * The kernel could leave caches in incoherent state on SME/TDX
>       * capable platforms.  Flush cache to avoid silent memory
>       * corruption for these platforms.
>       *
>       * For SME, need to flush cache here before copying the kernel.
>       * When it is active, there could be old encrypted cache line
>       * entries that will conflict with the now unencrypted memory
>       * used by kexec.
>       *
>       * Do WBINVD for bare-metal to cover both SME and TDX, as it's
>       * not safe to do WBINVD for TDX and SEV-ES/SEV-SNP guests.
>       * WBINVD results in exception (#VE or #VC) for these guests, and
>       * at this stage kernel is not able to handle such exception any
>       * more because the kernel has torn down IDT.
>       */

Similar to my comment in the other patch, just adding something that 
indicates that the WBINVD isn't necessary for TDX and SEV-ES/SEV-SNP 
(and maybe guests in general) would help. Maybe something like:

	 * Do WBINVD for bare-metal only to cover both SME and TDX. It
	 * isn't necessary to perform a WBINVD in a guest and performing
	 * one could result in an exception (#VE or #VC) for a TDX or
	 * SEV-ES/SEV-SNP guest that can crash the guest since, at this
	 * stage, the kernel has torn down the IDT.

This is all just my opinion, though, and others may read it differently. 
Probably not worth bike-shedding it.

Thanks,
Tom


  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-11 14:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-07 12:44 [PATCH v3 0/5] TDX host: kexec() support Kai Huang
2024-04-07 12:44 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] x86/kexec: do unconditional WBINVD for bare-metal in stop_this_cpu() Kai Huang
2024-04-10 14:12   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-04-10 21:54     ` Huang, Kai
2024-04-11 13:31       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-04-11 13:53         ` Huang, Kai
2024-04-15 17:59       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-15 21:43         ` Huang, Kai
2024-04-10 16:08   ` Tom Lendacky
2024-04-10 16:14     ` Tom Lendacky
2024-04-10 22:26       ` Huang, Kai
2024-04-11 14:13         ` Tom Lendacky
2024-04-11 21:55           ` Huang, Kai
2024-04-07 12:44 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] x86/kexec: do unconditional WBINVD for bare-metal in relocate_kernel() Kai Huang
2024-04-10 14:15   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-04-10 16:21   ` Tom Lendacky
2024-04-10 22:55     ` Huang, Kai
2024-04-11 14:25       ` Tom Lendacky [this message]
2024-04-11 21:59         ` Huang, Kai
2024-04-07 12:44 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] x86/kexec: Reset TDX private memory on platforms with TDX erratum Kai Huang
2024-04-07 12:44 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] x86/virt/tdx: Remove the !KEXEC_CORE dependency Kai Huang
2024-04-07 12:44 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] x86/virt/tdx: Add TDX memory reset notifier to reset other private pages Kai Huang

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