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From: "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>
To: "kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "luto@kernel.org" <luto@kernel.org>,
	"ashish.kalra@amd.com" <ashish.kalra@amd.com>,
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	"Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/5] x86/kexec: do unconditional WBINVD for bare-metal in stop_this_cpu()
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2024 13:53:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cdcae76739811b452d66e17554c9b324433a2f1e.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bvtzoqizxzz5ltepttwxu7nlny3najrci6reuybdfwcxpcpqtd@ixovf5h32j62>

On Thu, 2024-04-11 at 16:31 +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 09:54:13AM +1200, Huang, Kai wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 11/04/2024 2:12 am, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 08, 2024 at 12:44:54AM +1200, Kai Huang wrote:
> > > > TL;DR:
> > > 
> > > The commit message is waaay too verbose for no good reason. You don't
> > > really need to repeat all the history around this code.
> > 
> > Could you be more specific?
> > 
> > I was following Boris's suggestion to summerize all the discussion around
> > the "unconditional WBINVD" issue.
> > 
> > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-kernel/20240228110207.GCZd8Sr8mXHA2KTiLz@fat_crate.local/
> > 
> > I can try to improve if I can know specifically what should be trimmed down.
> 
> What about something like this:
> 
>   x86/mm: Do unconditional WBINVD in stop_this_cpu() for bare metal
> 
>   Both AMD SME and Intel TDX can leave caches in an incoherent state due to
>   memory encryption, which can lead to silent memory corruption during kexec. To
>   address this issue, it is necessary to flush the caches before jumping to the
>   second kernel.
> 
>   Previously, the kernel only performed WBINVD in stop_this_cpu() when SME
>   support was detected. To support TDX as well, instead of adding vendor-specific
>   checks, it is proposed to unconditionally perform WBINVD. Kexec() is a slow
>   path, and the additional WBINVD is acceptable for the sake of simplicity and
>   maintainability.
> 
>   It is important to note that WBINVD should only be done for bare-metal
>   scenarios, as TDX guests and SEV-ES/SEV-SNP guests may not handle unexpected
>   exceptions (#VE or #VC) caused by WBINVD.
> 
>   Historically, there were issues with unconditional WBINVD, leading to system
>   hangs or resets on different Intel systems. These issues were addressed by a
>   series of commits, culminating in the fix provided by commit 1f5e7eb7868e
>   ("x86/smp: Make stop_other_cpus() more robust").
> 
>   Further testing on problematic machines confirmed that the issues could not be
>   reproduced after applying the fix. Therefore, it is now safe to unconditionally
>   perform WBINVD in stop_this_cpu().
> 
> You can also add links to relevant threads as Link: tags.
> 

Hmm.. The last two paragraphs doesn't tell the background that the
"unconditional WBINVD" was the original way to do etc.  The changelog of commit
1f5e7eb7868e ("x86/smp: Make stop_other_cpus() more robust" (and the commit IDs
that it mentions) doesn't tell the full story either.

That means people will need to open all the Links to get the full information. 
I think it is against what Boris suggested.

Yeah I agree having a lengthy changelog is annoying sometimes, but for this
particular case we have a "TL;DR" so doesn't seem that bad to me. :-)

So for now I would like to keep the text after the "Note:" in my original
changelog, but I will use your first 3 paragraphs above to replace mine.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-11 13:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-07 12:44 [PATCH v3 0/5] TDX host: kexec() support Kai Huang
2024-04-07 12:44 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] x86/kexec: do unconditional WBINVD for bare-metal in stop_this_cpu() Kai Huang
2024-04-10 14:12   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-04-10 21:54     ` Huang, Kai
2024-04-11 13:31       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-04-11 13:53         ` Huang, Kai [this message]
2024-04-15 17:59       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-15 21:43         ` Huang, Kai
2024-04-10 16:08   ` Tom Lendacky
2024-04-10 16:14     ` Tom Lendacky
2024-04-10 22:26       ` Huang, Kai
2024-04-11 14:13         ` Tom Lendacky
2024-04-11 21:55           ` Huang, Kai
2024-04-07 12:44 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] x86/kexec: do unconditional WBINVD for bare-metal in relocate_kernel() Kai Huang
2024-04-10 14:15   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-04-10 16:21   ` Tom Lendacky
2024-04-10 22:55     ` Huang, Kai
2024-04-11 14:25       ` Tom Lendacky
2024-04-11 21:59         ` Huang, Kai
2024-04-07 12:44 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] x86/kexec: Reset TDX private memory on platforms with TDX erratum Kai Huang
2024-04-07 12:44 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] x86/virt/tdx: Remove the !KEXEC_CORE dependency Kai Huang
2024-04-07 12:44 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] x86/virt/tdx: Add TDX memory reset notifier to reset other private pages Kai Huang

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