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From: Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>
To: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.cz>,
	Seth Jennings <sjenning@redhat.com>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>, Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, kpatch@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Re: [PATCHv3 2/3] kernel: add support for live patching
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2014 17:09:47 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <547EC54B.7040607@hitachi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1411252027040.23174@pobox.suse.cz>

(2014/11/26 4:29), Jiri Kosina wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Nov 2014, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> 
>> It is not guaranteed from ftrace's stand point. What happens if we have
>> a kprobe handler that modifies it for someplace else? Changing the ip
>> address may not be a kpatch/kGraft privilege only.
> 
> This brings me back to the RFC patch I sent back then in october ... what 
> we really want to do is to at least warn about situations when we are 
> going to redirect code flow (through IPMODIFY) for function that has a 
> kprobe installed anywhere inside it.

Actually in my plan, normal kprobes/kretprobes don't set IPMODIFY
flag because it don't change the IP. Instead, you can even use
debugfs/kprobes/list to check whether the function is probed or not.
Or, I think we can provide atomic-conflict checking interface which
will iterate probes under locking kprobe list.

> Otherwise the probe will silently 
> vanish (there is no way how to migrate it to the new function 
> automatically), which might be very confusing for uses (cosider systemtap, 
> for example).

Yeah, I think we can add --force option(or sysctl) to patch functions
just ignoring probed or not. (for emergency vulnerability fixes)

Thank you,

> 
> I'll resurect my patch if noone beats me doing it. It should go in 
> together with the live patching framework I believe.
> 
> Thanks,
> 


-- 
Masami HIRAMATSU
Software Platform Research Dept. Linux Technology Research Center
Hitachi, Ltd., Yokohama Research Laboratory
E-mail: masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com



  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-03  8:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-20 22:29 [PATCHv3 0/3] Kernel Live Patching Seth Jennings
2014-11-20 22:29 ` [PATCHv3 1/3] kernel: add TAINT_LIVEPATCH Seth Jennings
2014-11-20 22:29 ` [PATCHv3 2/3] kernel: add support for live patching Seth Jennings
2014-11-21  0:22   ` Jiri Kosina
2014-11-21 14:44     ` Miroslav Benes
2014-11-21 15:00       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2014-11-21 15:46         ` Miroslav Benes
2014-11-21 16:13           ` Seth Jennings
2014-11-21 15:21     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2014-11-21 15:27       ` Jiri Kosina
2014-11-21 15:35         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2014-11-21 16:40     ` Seth Jennings
2014-11-21 17:35       ` Jiri Slaby
2014-11-21 18:29         ` Seth Jennings
2014-11-21 17:53       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-21  2:39   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-11-25 16:39     ` Petr Mladek
2014-11-25 16:52       ` Steven Rostedt
2014-11-25 17:04         ` Petr Mladek
2014-11-25 17:16           ` Steven Rostedt
2014-11-25 19:29             ` Jiri Kosina
2014-12-03  8:09               ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2014-11-24 11:13   ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-24 13:21     ` Jiri Kosina
2014-11-24 13:26       ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-24 13:31         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2014-11-24 14:25           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-11-24 13:31         ` Jiri Kosina
2014-11-24 13:23     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2014-11-24 13:24     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2014-11-24 13:27     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-11-20 22:29 ` [PATCHv3 3/3] kernel: add sysfs documentation " Seth Jennings
2014-11-21  2:49   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-11-21 16:41     ` Seth Jennings
2014-11-21  2:44 ` [PATCHv3 0/3] Kernel Live Patching Masami Hiramatsu

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