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From: Bharata B Rao <bharata@amd.com>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com, dave.hansen@intel.com,
	gourry@gourry.net, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	mgorman@techsingularity.net, mingo@redhat.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, raghavendra.kt@amd.com, riel@surriel.com,
	rientjes@google.com, sj@kernel.org, weixugc@google.com,
	willy@infradead.org, ziy@nvidia.com, dave@stgolabs.net,
	nifan.cxl@gmail.com, joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com,
	xuezhengchu@huawei.com, yiannis@zptcorp.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v0 0/2] Batch migration for NUMA balancing
Date: Tue, 27 May 2025 14:23:27 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55c51f34-b41d-49b2-96a2-dcc5f425f966@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sekrbvyr.fsf@DESKTOP-5N7EMDA>

On 26-May-25 2:16 PM, Huang, Ying wrote:
> Hi, Bharata,
> 
> Bharata B Rao <bharata@amd.com> writes:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is an attempt to convert the NUMA balancing to do batched
>> migration instead of migrating one folio at a time. The basic
>> idea is to collect (from hint fault handler) the folios to be
>> migrated in a list and batch-migrate them from task_work context.
>> More details about the specifics are present in patch 2/2.
>>
>> During LSFMM[1] and subsequent discussions in MM alignment calls[2],
>> it was suggested that separate migration threads to handle migration
>> or promotion request may be desirable. Existing NUMA balancing, hot
>> page promotion and other future promotion techniques could off-load
>> migration part to these threads.
> 
> What is the expected benefit of the change?

Initially it is about cleanliness and separation of migration into its 
own thread/sub-system.

> 
> For code reuse, we can use migrate_misplaced_folio() or
> migrate_misplaced_folio_batch() in various promotion path.

That's what I have done in this patchset at least. We thought we could 
go full length and off-load migration to its own thread.

> 
> For workload latency influence, per my understanding, PTE scanning is
> much more serious than migration.  Why not start from that?

Raghu's PTE A bit scanning is one effort towards that (Removing PTE 
scanning from task context.

Regards,
Bharata.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-27  8:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-21  8:02 Bharata B Rao
2025-05-21  8:02 ` [RFC PATCH v0 1/2] migrate: implement migrate_misplaced_folio_batch Bharata B Rao
2025-05-22 15:59   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 16:03     ` Gregory Price
2025-05-22 16:08       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-26  8:16   ` Huang, Ying
2025-05-21  8:02 ` [RFC PATCH v0 2/2] mm: sched: Batch-migrate misplaced pages Bharata B Rao
2025-05-21 18:25   ` Donet Tom
2025-05-21 18:40     ` Zi Yan
2025-05-22  3:24       ` Gregory Price
2025-05-22  5:23         ` Bharata B Rao
2025-05-22  4:42       ` Bharata B Rao
2025-05-22  4:39     ` Bharata B Rao
2025-05-23  9:05       ` Donet Tom
2025-05-22  3:55   ` Gregory Price
2025-05-22  7:33     ` Bharata B Rao
2025-05-22 15:38       ` Gregory Price
2025-05-22 16:11   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 16:24     ` Zi Yan
2025-05-22 16:26       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 16:38         ` Zi Yan
2025-05-22 17:21           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 17:30             ` Zi Yan
2025-05-26  8:33               ` Huang, Ying
2025-05-26  9:29               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-26 14:20                 ` Zi Yan
2025-05-27  1:18                   ` Huang, Ying
2025-05-27  1:27                     ` Zi Yan
2025-05-28 12:25                   ` Karim Manaouil
2025-05-26  5:14     ` Bharata B Rao
2025-05-21 18:45 ` [RFC PATCH v0 0/2] Batch migration for NUMA balancing SeongJae Park
2025-05-22  3:08   ` Gregory Price
2025-05-22 16:30     ` SeongJae Park
2025-05-22 17:40       ` Gregory Price
2025-05-22 18:52         ` SeongJae Park
2025-05-22 18:43   ` Apologies and clarifications on DAMON-disruptions (was Re: [RFC PATCH v0 0/2] Batch migration for NUMA balancing) SeongJae Park
2025-05-26  5:20   ` [RFC PATCH v0 0/2] Batch migration for NUMA balancing Bharata B Rao
2025-05-27 18:50     ` SeongJae Park
2025-05-26  8:46 ` Huang, Ying
2025-05-27  8:53   ` Bharata B Rao [this message]
2025-05-27  9:05     ` Huang, Ying

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