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From: Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com>
To: Gabriele Monaco <gmonaco@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: "John B. Wyatt IV" <jwyatt@redhat.com>,
	"John B. Wyatt IV" <sageofredondo@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v15 7/7] timers: Exclude isolated cpus from timer migration
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2025 15:43:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55c5b273-7b68-4636-824e-ddd5ee757f87@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251113083324.33490-8-gmonaco@redhat.com>

On 11/13/25 3:33 AM, Gabriele Monaco wrote:
> The timer migration mechanism allows active CPUs to pull timers from
> idle ones to improve the overall idle time. This is however undesired
> when CPU intensive workloads run on isolated cores, as the algorithm
> would move the timers from housekeeping to isolated cores, negatively
> affecting the isolation.
>
> Exclude isolated cores from the timer migration algorithm, extend the
> concept of unavailable cores, currently used for offline ones, to
> isolated ones:
> * A core is unavailable if isolated or offline;
> * A core is available if non isolated and online;
>
> A core is considered unavailable as isolated if it belongs to:
> * the isolcpus (domain) list
> * an isolated cpuset
> Except if it is:
> * in the nohz_full list (already idle for the hierarchy)
> * the nohz timekeeper core (must be available to handle global timers)
>
> CPUs are added to the hierarchy during late boot, excluding isolated
> ones, the hierarchy is also adapted when the cpuset isolation changes.
>
> Due to how the timer migration algorithm works, any CPU part of the
> hierarchy can have their global timers pulled by remote CPUs and have to
> pull remote timers, only skipping pulling remote timers would break the
> logic.
> For this reason, prevent isolated CPUs from pulling remote global
> timers, but also the other way around: any global timer started on an
> isolated CPU will run there. This does not break the concept of
> isolation (global timers don't come from outside the CPU) and, if
> considered inappropriate, can usually be mitigated with other isolation
> techniques (e.g. IRQ pinning).
>
> This effect was noticed on a 128 cores machine running oslat on the
> isolated cores (1-31,33-63,65-95,97-127). The tool monopolises CPUs,
> and the CPU with lowest count in a timer migration hierarchy (here 1
> and 65) appears as always active and continuously pulls global timers,
> from the housekeeping CPUs. This ends up moving driver work (e.g.
> delayed work) to isolated CPUs and causes latency spikes:
>
> before the change:
>
>   # oslat -c 1-31,33-63,65-95,97-127 -D 62s
>   ...
>    Maximum:     1203 10 3 4 ... 5 (us)
>
> after the change:
>
>   # oslat -c 1-31,33-63,65-95,97-127 -D 62s
>   ...
>    Maximum:      10 4 3 4 3 ... 5 (us)
>
> The same behaviour was observed on a machine with as few as 20 cores /
> 40 threads with isocpus set to: 1-9,11-39 with rtla-osnoise-top.
>
> Tested-by: John B. Wyatt IV <jwyatt@redhat.com>
> Tested-by: John B. Wyatt IV <sageofredondo@gmail.com>
> Reviewed-by: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
> Signed-off-by: Gabriele Monaco <gmonaco@redhat.com>
> ---
>   include/linux/timer.h         |   9 ++
>   kernel/cgroup/cpuset.c        |   3 +
>   kernel/time/timer_migration.c | 156 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
>   3 files changed, 163 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/include/linux/timer.h b/include/linux/timer.h
> index 0414d9e6b4fc..62e1cea71125 100644
> --- a/include/linux/timer.h
> +++ b/include/linux/timer.h
> @@ -188,4 +188,13 @@ int timers_dead_cpu(unsigned int cpu);
>   #define timers_dead_cpu		NULL
>   #endif
>   
> +#if defined(CONFIG_SMP) && defined(CONFIG_NO_HZ_COMMON)
> +extern int tmigr_isolated_exclude_cpumask(struct cpumask *exclude_cpumask);
> +#else
> +static inline int tmigr_isolated_exclude_cpumask(struct cpumask *exclude_cpumask)
> +{
> +	return 0;
> +}
> +#endif
> +
>   #endif
> diff --git a/kernel/cgroup/cpuset.c b/kernel/cgroup/cpuset.c
> index cf34623fe66f..bfc3b319e1c0 100644
> --- a/kernel/cgroup/cpuset.c
> +++ b/kernel/cgroup/cpuset.c
> @@ -1350,6 +1350,9 @@ static void update_isolation_cpumasks(bool isolcpus_updated)
>   
>   	ret = workqueue_unbound_exclude_cpumask(isolated_cpus);
>   	WARN_ON_ONCE(ret < 0);
> +
> +	ret = tmigr_isolated_exclude_cpumask(isolated_cpus);
> +	WARN_ON_ONCE(ret < 0);
>   }
>   
>   /**
> diff --git a/kernel/time/timer_migration.c b/kernel/time/timer_migration.c
> index d3eb9714e692..0e275d526d50 100644
> --- a/kernel/time/timer_migration.c
> +++ b/kernel/time/timer_migration.c
> @@ -10,6 +10,7 @@
>   #include <linux/spinlock.h>
>   #include <linux/timerqueue.h>
>   #include <trace/events/ipi.h>
> +#include <linux/sched/isolation.h>
>   
>   #include "timer_migration.h"
>   #include "tick-internal.h"
> @@ -430,6 +431,9 @@ static DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct tmigr_cpu, tmigr_cpu);
>    */
>   static cpumask_var_t tmigr_available_cpumask;
>   
> +/* Enabled during late initcall */
> +static DEFINE_STATIC_KEY_FALSE(tmigr_exclude_isolated);
> +
>   #define TMIGR_NONE	0xFF
>   #define BIT_CNT		8
>   
> @@ -438,6 +442,33 @@ static inline bool tmigr_is_not_available(struct tmigr_cpu *tmc)
>   	return !(tmc->tmgroup && tmc->available);
>   }
>   
> +/*
> + * Returns true if @cpu should be excluded from the hierarchy as isolated.
> + * Domain isolated CPUs don't participate in timer migration, nohz_full CPUs
> + * are still part of the hierarchy but become idle (from a tick and timer
> + * migration perspective) when they stop their tick. This lets the timekeeping
> + * CPU handle their global timers. Marking also isolated CPUs as idle would be
> + * too costly, hence they are completely excluded from the hierarchy.
> + * This check is necessary, for instance, to prevent offline isolated CPUs from
> + * being incorrectly marked as available once getting back online.
> + *
> + * This function returns false during early boot and the isolation logic is
> + * enabled only after isolated CPUs are marked as unavailable at late boot.
> + * The tick CPU can be isolated at boot, however we cannot mark it as
> + * unavailable to avoid having no global migrator for the nohz_full CPUs. This
> + * should be ensured by the callers of this function: implicitly from hotplug
> + * callbacs and explicitly in tmigr_init_isolation and
> + * tmigr_isolated_exclude_cpumask.
> + */
> +static inline bool tmigr_is_isolated(int cpu)
> +{
> +	if (static_branch_unlikely(&tmigr_exclude_isolated))
> +		return (!housekeeping_cpu(cpu, HK_TYPE_DOMAIN) ||
> +			cpuset_cpu_is_isolated(cpu)) &&
> +		       housekeeping_cpu(cpu, HK_TYPE_KERNEL_NOISE);
> +	return false;
> +}
> +
>   /*
>    * Returns true, when @childmask corresponds to the group migrator or when the
>    * group is not active - so no migrator is set.
> @@ -1439,8 +1470,9 @@ static int tmigr_clear_cpu_available(unsigned int cpu)
>   	int migrator;
>   	u64 firstexp;
>   
> -	cpumask_clear_cpu(cpu, tmigr_available_cpumask);
>   	scoped_guard(raw_spinlock_irq, &tmc->lock) {
> +		if (!tmc->available)
> +			return 0;
>   		tmc->available = false;
>   		WRITE_ONCE(tmc->wakeup, KTIME_MAX);
>   
> @@ -1453,11 +1485,11 @@ static int tmigr_clear_cpu_available(unsigned int cpu)
>   	}
>   
>   	if (firstexp != KTIME_MAX) {
> -		migrator = cpumask_any(tmigr_available_cpumask);
> +		migrator = cpumask_any_but(tmigr_available_cpumask, cpu);
>   		work_on_cpu(migrator, tmigr_trigger_active, NULL);
>   	}
>   
> -	return 0;
> +	return 1;
>   }
>   
>   static int tmigr_set_cpu_available(unsigned int cpu)
> @@ -1468,17 +1500,130 @@ static int tmigr_set_cpu_available(unsigned int cpu)
>   	if (WARN_ON_ONCE(!tmc->tmgroup))
>   		return -EINVAL;
>   
> -	cpumask_set_cpu(cpu, tmigr_available_cpumask);
> +	if (tmigr_is_isolated(cpu))
> +		return 0;
> +
>   	scoped_guard(raw_spinlock_irq, &tmc->lock) {
> +		if (tmc->available)
> +			return 0;
>   		trace_tmigr_cpu_available(tmc);
>   		tmc->idle = timer_base_is_idle();
>   		if (!tmc->idle)
>   			__tmigr_cpu_activate(tmc);
>   		tmc->available = true;
>   	}
> +	return 1;
> +}
> +
> +static int tmigr_online_cpu(unsigned int cpu)
> +{
> +	if (tmigr_set_cpu_available(cpu) > 0)
> +		cpumask_set_cpu(cpu, tmigr_available_cpumask);
> +	return 0;
> +}
> +
> +static int tmigr_offline_cpu(unsigned int cpu)
> +{
> +	if (tmigr_clear_cpu_available(cpu) > 0)
> +		cpumask_clear_cpu(cpu, tmigr_available_cpumask);
> +	return 0;
> +}
> +
> +static void tmigr_cpu_isolate(struct work_struct *ignored)
> +{
> +	tmigr_clear_cpu_available(smp_processor_id());
> +}
> +
> +static void tmigr_cpu_unisolate(struct work_struct *ignored)
> +{
> +	tmigr_set_cpu_available(smp_processor_id());
> +}
> +
> +static int __tmigr_isolated_exclude_cpumask(struct cpumask *exclude_cpumask)
> +{
> +	struct work_struct __percpu *works __free(free_percpu) =
> +		alloc_percpu(struct work_struct);
> +	cpumask_var_t cpumask_unisol __free(free_cpumask_var) = CPUMASK_VAR_NULL;
> +	cpumask_var_t cpumask_isol __free(free_cpumask_var) = CPUMASK_VAR_NULL;
> +	int cpu;

There are currently only 2 callers for this function - from late_init 
call and from cpuset. Concurrent call is not possible. Maybe we can just 
pre-allocate these cpumask_var_t and percpu work structures once and 
reuse it instead of doing an allocation and free each time it is called. 
The pre-allocation can be done in tmigr_init_isolation().


> +
> +	if (!alloc_cpumask_var(&cpumask_isol, GFP_KERNEL))
> +		return -ENOMEM;
> +	if (!alloc_cpumask_var(&cpumask_unisol, GFP_KERNEL))
> +		return -ENOMEM;
> +	if (!works)
> +		return -ENOMEM;
> +
> +	cpumask_andnot(cpumask_unisol, cpu_online_mask, exclude_cpumask);
> +	cpumask_andnot(cpumask_unisol, cpumask_unisol, tmigr_available_cpumask);
> +	/* Set up the mask earlier to avoid races with the migrator CPU */
> +	cpumask_or(tmigr_available_cpumask, tmigr_available_cpumask, cpumask_unisol);
> +	for_each_cpu(cpu, cpumask_unisol) {
> +		struct work_struct *work = per_cpu_ptr(works, cpu);
> +
> +		INIT_WORK(work, tmigr_cpu_unisolate);
> +		schedule_work_on(cpu, work);
> +	}
> +
> +	cpumask_and(cpumask_isol, exclude_cpumask, tmigr_available_cpumask);
> +	cpumask_and(cpumask_isol, cpumask_isol, housekeeping_cpumask(HK_TYPE_KERNEL_NOISE));
> +	/*
> +	 * Handle this here and not in the cpuset code because exclude_cpumask
> +	 * might include also the tick CPU if included in isolcpus.
> +	 */
> +	for_each_cpu(cpu, cpumask_isol) {
> +		if (!tick_nohz_cpu_hotpluggable(cpu)) {
> +			cpumask_clear_cpu(cpu, cpumask_isol);
> +			break;
> +		}
> +	}
> +	/* Set up the mask earlier to avoid races with the migrator CPU */
> +	cpumask_andnot(tmigr_available_cpumask, tmigr_available_cpumask, cpumask_isol);
> +	for_each_cpu(cpu, cpumask_isol) {
> +		struct work_struct *work = per_cpu_ptr(works, cpu);
> +
> +		INIT_WORK(work, tmigr_cpu_isolate);
> +		schedule_work_on(cpu, work);
> +	}
> +
> +	for_each_cpu_or(cpu, cpumask_isol, cpumask_unisol)
> +		flush_work(per_cpu_ptr(works, cpu));
> +
>   	return 0;
>   }
>   
> +/**
> + * tmigr_isolated_exclude_cpumask - Exclude given CPUs from hierarchy
> + * @exclude_cpumask: the cpumask to be excluded from timer migration hierarchy
> + *
> + * This function can be called from cpuset code to provide the new set of
> + * isolated CPUs that should be excluded from the hierarchy.
> + * Online CPUs not present in exclude_cpumask but already excluded are brought
> + * back to the hierarchy.
> + * Functions to isolate/unisolate need to be called locally and can sleep.
> + */
> +int tmigr_isolated_exclude_cpumask(struct cpumask *exclude_cpumask)
> +{
> +	lockdep_assert_cpus_held();
> +	return __tmigr_isolated_exclude_cpumask(exclude_cpumask);
> +}
> +
> +static int __init tmigr_init_isolation(void)
> +{
> +	cpumask_var_t cpumask __free(free_cpumask_var) = CPUMASK_VAR_NULL;
> +
> +	static_branch_enable(&tmigr_exclude_isolated);
> +
> +	if (!housekeeping_enabled(HK_TYPE_DOMAIN))
> +		return 0;
> +	if (!alloc_cpumask_var(&cpumask, GFP_KERNEL))
> +		return -ENOMEM;
> +
> +	cpumask_andnot(cpumask, cpu_possible_mask, housekeeping_cpumask(HK_TYPE_DOMAIN));
> +
> +	return __tmigr_isolated_exclude_cpumask(cpumask);
> +}

Should we put all these functions under "#if defined(CONFIG_SMP) && 
defined(CONFIG_NO_HZ_COMMON)" like in the timer.h header file?

Cheers,
Longman


> +
>   static void tmigr_init_group(struct tmigr_group *group, unsigned int lvl,
>   			     int node)
>   {
> @@ -1867,7 +2012,7 @@ static int __init tmigr_init(void)
>   		goto err;
>   
>   	ret = cpuhp_setup_state(CPUHP_AP_TMIGR_ONLINE, "tmigr:online",
> -				tmigr_set_cpu_available, tmigr_clear_cpu_available);
> +				tmigr_online_cpu, tmigr_offline_cpu);
>   	if (ret)
>   		goto err;
>   
> @@ -1878,3 +2023,4 @@ static int __init tmigr_init(void)
>   	return ret;
>   }
>   early_initcall(tmigr_init);
> +late_initcall(tmigr_init_isolation);


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-11-19 20:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-13  8:33 [PATCH v15 0/7] " Gabriele Monaco
2025-11-13  8:33 ` [PATCH v15 1/7] timers: Rename tmigr 'online' bit to 'available' Gabriele Monaco
2025-11-19 15:49   ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-11-13  8:33 ` [PATCH v15 2/7] timers: Add the available mask in timer migration Gabriele Monaco
2025-11-19 15:56   ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-11-13  8:33 ` [PATCH v15 3/7] timers: Use scoped_guard when setting/clearing the tmigr available flag Gabriele Monaco
2025-11-19 15:57   ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-11-13  8:33 ` [PATCH v15 4/7] cgroup/cpuset: Rename update_unbound_workqueue_cpumask() to update_isolation_cpumasks() Gabriele Monaco
2025-11-13  8:33 ` [PATCH v15 5/7] sched/isolation: Force housekeeping if isolcpus and nohz_full don't leave any Gabriele Monaco
2025-11-13  8:33 ` [PATCH v15 6/7] cpumask: Add initialiser to use cleanup helpers Gabriele Monaco
2025-11-13  8:33 ` [PATCH v15 7/7] timers: Exclude isolated cpus from timer migration Gabriele Monaco
2025-11-19 16:50   ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-11-19 17:14     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-11-19 18:15       ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-11-19 20:13         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-11-19 21:23           ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-11-19 22:02             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-11-19 22:10               ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-11-19 22:31                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-11-19 20:43   ` Waiman Long [this message]
2025-11-20 10:48     ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-11-20 21:04       ` Waiman Long
2025-11-13 13:12 ` [PATCH v15 0/7] " Frederic Weisbecker
2025-11-18 10:01   ` Gabriele Monaco

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