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From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
To: "kas@kernel.org" <kas@kernel.org>,
	"Annapurve, Vishal" <vannapurve@google.com>
Cc: "Gao, Chao" <chao.gao@intel.com>,
	"seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>, "bp@alien8.de" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Zhao, Yan Y" <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
	"dave.hansen@linux.intel.com" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
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	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Yamahata, Isaku" <isaku.yamahata@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 00/12] TDX: Enable Dynamic PAMT
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 15:12:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57755acf553c79d0b337736eb4d6295e61be722f.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <itbtox4nck665paycb5kpu3k54bfzxavtvgrxwj26xlhqfarsu@tjlm2ddtuzp3>

On Tue, 2025-08-12 at 09:04 +0100, kas@kernel.org wrote:
> > > E.g. for things like TDCS pages and to some extent non-leaf S-EPT pages,
> > > on-demand
> > > PAMT management seems reasonable.  But for PAMTs that are used to track
> > > guest-assigned
> > > memory, which is the vaaast majority of PAMT memory, why not hook
> > > guest_memfd?
> > 
> > This seems fine for 4K page backing. But when TDX VMs have huge page
> > backing, the vast majority of private memory memory wouldn't need PAMT
> > allocation for 4K granularity.
> > 
> > IIUC guest_memfd allocation happening at 2M granularity doesn't
> > necessarily translate to 2M mapping in guest EPT entries. If the DPAMT
> > support is to be properly utilized for huge page backings, there is a
> > value in not attaching PAMT allocation with guest_memfd allocation.
> 
> Right.
> 
> It also requires special handling in many places in core-mm. Like, what
> happens if THP in guest memfd got split. Who would allocate PAMT for it?
> Migration will be more complicated too (when we get there).

I actually went down this path too, but the problem I hit was that TDX module
wants the PAMT page size to match the S-EPT page size. And the S-EPT size will
depend on runtime behavior of the guest. I'm not sure why TDX module requires
this though. Kirill, I'd be curious to understand the constraint more if you
recall.

But in any case, it seems there are multiple reasons.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-12 15:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-09 19:13 Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-09 19:13 ` [PATCHv2 01/12] x86/tdx: Consolidate TDX error handling Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-25 17:58   ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-25 20:58     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-25 21:27       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-25 21:46         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-26  9:25         ` kirill.shutemov
2025-06-26 14:46           ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-26 15:51             ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-26 16:59               ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-27 10:42                 ` kirill.shutemov
2025-07-30 18:32                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-31 23:31                   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-31 23:46                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-31 23:53                       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-01 15:03                         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-06 15:19                           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-26  0:05     ` Huang, Kai
2025-07-30 18:33       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-09 19:13 ` [PATCHv2 02/12] x86/virt/tdx: Allocate page bitmap for Dynamic PAMT Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-25 18:06   ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-26  9:25     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-07-31  1:06     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-31  4:10       ` Huang, Kai
2025-06-26 11:08   ` Huang, Kai
2025-06-27 10:42     ` kirill.shutemov
2025-06-09 19:13 ` [PATCHv2 03/12] x86/virt/tdx: Allocate reference counters for PAMT memory Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-25 19:26   ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-27 11:27     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-27 14:03       ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-26  0:53   ` Huang, Kai
2025-06-26  4:48     ` Huang, Kai
2025-06-27 11:35     ` kirill.shutemov
2025-06-09 19:13 ` [PATCHv2 04/12] x86/virt/tdx: Add tdx_alloc/free_page() helpers Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-10  2:36   ` Chao Gao
2025-06-10 14:51     ` [PATCHv2.1 " Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-25 18:01       ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-25 20:09     ` [PATCHv2 " Dave Hansen
2025-06-26  0:46       ` Chao Gao
2025-06-25 20:02   ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-27 13:00     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-27  7:49   ` Adrian Hunter
2025-06-27 13:03     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-09-16  0:03   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-16  9:22     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-09-16 17:10       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-09 19:13 ` [PATCHv2 05/12] KVM: TDX: Allocate PAMT memory in __tdx_td_init() Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-09 19:13 ` [PATCHv2 06/12] KVM: TDX: Allocate PAMT memory in tdx_td_vcpu_init() Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-09 19:13 ` [PATCHv2 07/12] KVM: TDX: Preallocate PAMT pages to be used in page fault path Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-26 11:21   ` Huang, Kai
2025-07-10  1:34   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-10  7:49     ` kirill.shutemov
2025-06-09 19:13 ` [PATCHv2 08/12] KVM: TDX: Handle PAMT allocation in " Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-12 12:19   ` Chao Gao
2025-06-12 13:05     ` [PATCHv2.1 " Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-25 22:38   ` [PATCHv2 " Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-09 14:29     ` kirill.shutemov
2025-07-10  1:33   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-10  8:45     ` kirill.shutemov
2025-08-21 19:21   ` Sagi Shahar
2025-08-21 19:35     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-21 19:53       ` Sagi Shahar
2025-06-09 19:13 ` [PATCHv2 09/12] KVM: TDX: Reclaim PAMT memory Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-09 19:13 ` [PATCHv2 10/12] [NOT-FOR-UPSTREAM] x86/virt/tdx: Account PAMT memory and print it in /proc/meminfo Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-09 19:13 ` [PATCHv2 11/12] x86/virt/tdx: Enable Dynamic PAMT Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-09 19:13 ` [PATCHv2 12/12] Documentation/x86: Add documentation for TDX's " Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-25 13:25 ` [PATCHv2 00/12] TDX: Enable " Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-25 22:49 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-27 13:05   ` kirill.shutemov
2025-08-08 23:18 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-11  6:31   ` kas
2025-08-11 22:30     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-12  2:02       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-12  2:31         ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-08-12  8:04           ` kas
2025-08-12 15:12             ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2025-08-12 16:15               ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-12 18:39                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-12 22:00                   ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-08-12 23:34                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-13  0:18                       ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-08-13  0:51                         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-12 18:44                 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-08-13  8:09                 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-08-13  7:49               ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-08-12  8:03         ` kas
2025-08-13 22:43         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-13 23:31           ` Dave Hansen
2025-08-14  0:14             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-14 10:55               ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-08-15  1:03                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-20 15:31                   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-20 16:35                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-08 19:17 ` Dave Hansen
2025-09-09 11:16   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-09-09 15:23     ` Dave Hansen
2025-09-10 17:18       ` Vishal Annapurve

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