From: Yang Shi <yang@os.amperecomputing.com>
To: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
Cc: Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>,
Sven Schnelle <svens@linux.ibm.com>,
Vasily Gorbik <gor@linux.ibm.com>,
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>,
Juergen Christ <jchrist@linux.ibm.com>,
"Christoph Lameter (Ampere)" <cl@gentwo.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/9] s390: Improve this_cpu operations
Date: Thu, 21 May 2026 09:57:37 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <592ea7fb-b836-4c47-a0cb-248a185cbaa8@os.amperecomputing.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260521111744.6e58bfd6@pumpkin>
On 5/21/26 3:17 AM, David Laight wrote:
> On Wed, 20 May 2026 17:23:37 -0700
> Yang Shi <yang@os.amperecomputing.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/20/26 3:34 PM, David Laight wrote:
> ...
>>> But I'm sure I remember that some cpu don't like having the same
>>> physical address at different virtual addresses (and not just those
>>> with VIVT caches like some sparc cpu).
>> Yeah, VIVT cache doesn't like it due to cache alias. But the mapping is
>> really percpu, so the mapping to the physical address belonging to
>> another CPU should never pollute the current CPU's cache if I don't miss
>> something.
>>
>>> I'm sure code can end up accessing the current cpu's percpu data
>>> using the same address that other cpu use - there are definitely
>>> places where it needs that address.
>> No, it is not. In the percpu page table approach, we use different
>> address for this_cpu_*() and per_cpu_ptr() which is mainly used to
>> initialize percpu data for all CPUs.
> You missed something.
>
> Look, for example, at kernel/locking/osq_lock.c
> The code uses this_cpu_ptr() and then both dereferences the pointer
> and writes it to places that other cpu will use.
> It also uses per_cpu_ptr() to get an address it can use for the per-cpu
> data of another cpu.
> (That code all assumes preemption is disabled.)
this_cpu_ptr() uses different addresses for different CPUs. It is a
special case, it is not due to VIVT, but because it may confuse list
API. Because list API determines list is empty by comparing pointers
(head->next == head). this_cpu_read/write/add/sub, etc, are fine.
And per_cpu_ptr() also uses different addresses for different CPUs.
The lwn article explained it.
https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/1073395/12c08f128e515809/
Thanks,
Yang
>
> -- David
>
>> Thanks,
>> Yang
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-21 16:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-20 9:22 Heiko Carstens
2026-05-20 9:22 ` [PATCH v3 1/9] s390/alternatives: Add new ALT_TYPE_PERCPU type Heiko Carstens
2026-05-20 12:43 ` David Laight
2026-05-20 13:50 ` Heiko Carstens
2026-05-20 14:16 ` Heiko Carstens
2026-05-20 9:22 ` [PATCH v3 2/9] s390/percpu: Infrastructure for more efficient this_cpu operations Heiko Carstens
2026-05-20 9:22 ` [PATCH v3 3/9] s390/percpu: Add missing do { } while (0) constructs Heiko Carstens
2026-05-20 9:22 ` [PATCH v3 4/9] s390/percpu: Use new percpu code section for arch_this_cpu_add() Heiko Carstens
2026-05-20 9:22 ` [PATCH v3 5/9] s390/percpu: Use new percpu code section for arch_this_cpu_add_return() Heiko Carstens
2026-05-20 9:22 ` [PATCH v3 6/9] s390/percpu: Use new percpu code section for arch_this_cpu_[and|or]() Heiko Carstens
2026-05-20 9:22 ` [PATCH v3 7/9] s390/percpu: Provide arch_this_cpu_read() implementation Heiko Carstens
2026-05-20 9:22 ` [PATCH v3 8/9] s390/percpu: Provide arch_this_cpu_write() implementation Heiko Carstens
2026-05-20 9:22 ` [PATCH v3 9/9] s390/percpu: Remove one and two byte this_cpu operation implementation Heiko Carstens
2026-05-20 18:42 ` [PATCH v3 0/9] s390: Improve this_cpu operations Yang Shi
2026-05-20 22:34 ` David Laight
2026-05-21 0:23 ` Yang Shi
2026-05-21 10:17 ` David Laight
2026-05-21 16:57 ` Yang Shi [this message]
2026-05-21 17:55 ` David Laight
2026-05-21 20:46 ` Yang Shi
2026-05-21 22:13 ` David Laight
2026-05-21 23:41 ` Yang Shi
2026-05-21 10:23 ` David Laight
2026-05-21 17:48 ` Yang Shi
2026-05-21 10:37 ` Heiko Carstens
2026-05-21 17:47 ` Yang Shi
2026-05-22 9:18 ` Heiko Carstens
2026-05-27 19:09 ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2026-05-27 20:38 ` Yang Shi
2026-05-28 8:36 ` David Laight
2026-05-27 23:44 ` Yang Shi
2026-05-28 9:03 ` David Laight
2026-05-28 19:19 ` Yang Shi
2026-05-28 20:34 ` David Laight
2026-05-28 14:14 ` Heiko Carstens
2026-05-28 17:14 ` David Laight
2026-05-28 18:39 ` Yang Shi
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