From: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
To: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
Vishal Chourasia <vishalc@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
paulmck@kernel.org, frederic@kernel.org,
neeraj.upadhyay@kernel.org, joelagnelf@nvidia.com,
josh@joshtriplett.org, boqun.feng@gmail.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org, srikar@linux.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cpuhp: Expedite synchronize_rcu during CPU hotplug operations
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2026 17:32:58 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5a2b00f2-5e73-4c89-89b5-1a69cb8a7fa2@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aWTIDGQ1_NYeO4iU@pc636>
Hi Vishal. Thanks for the patch.
On 1/12/26 3:38 PM, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 03:13:33PM +0530, Vishal Chourasia wrote:
>> Bulk CPU hotplug operations—such as switching SMT modes across all
>> cores—require hotplugging multiple CPUs in rapid succession. On large
>> systems, this process takes significant time, increasing as the number
>> of CPUs grows, leading to substantial delays on high-core-count
>> machines. Analysis [1] reveals that the majority of this time is spent
>> waiting for synchronize_rcu().
>>
>> Expedite synchronize_rcu() during the hotplug path to accelerate the
>> operation. Since CPU hotplug is a user-initiated administrative task,
>> it should complete as quickly as possible.
>>
>> Performance data on a PPC64 system with 400 CPUs:
>>
>> + ppc64_cpu --smt=1 (SMT8 to SMT1)
>> Before: real 1m14.792s
>> After: real 0m03.205s # ~23x improvement
>>
>> + ppc64_cpu --smt=8 (SMT1 to SMT8)
>> Before: real 2m27.695s
>> After: real 0m02.510s # ~58x improvement
>>
>> Above numbers were collected on Linux 6.19.0-rc4-00310-g755bc1335e3b
>>
>> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/5f2ab8a44d685701fe36cdaa8042a1aef215d10d.camel@linux.vnet.ibm.com
>>
> Also you can try: echo 1 > /sys/module/rcutree/parameters/rcu_normal_wake_from_gp
> to speedup regular synchronize_rcu() call. But i am not saying that it would beat
> your "expedited switch" improvement.
>
Hi Uladzislau.
Had a discussion on this at LPC, having in kernel solution is likely
better than having it in userspace.
- Having it in kernel would make it work across all archs. Why should
any user wait when one initiates the hotplug.
- userspace tools are spread across such as chcpu, ppc64_cpu etc.
though internally most do "0/1 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuN/online".
We will have to repeat the same in each tool.
- There is already /sys/kernel/rcu_expedited which is better if at all
we need to fallback to userspace.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-12 12:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-12 9:43 Vishal Chourasia
2026-01-12 10:08 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-01-12 10:43 ` Vishal Chourasia
2026-01-12 11:07 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-01-12 12:02 ` Shrikanth Hegde [this message]
2026-01-12 12:57 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-01-12 16:09 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-12 16:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-01-12 17:05 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-01-12 18:27 ` Vishal Chourasia
2026-01-13 0:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-01-12 22:24 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-13 0:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-01-13 2:46 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-13 4:53 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-01-13 8:57 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-14 4:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-01-14 8:54 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-16 19:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-01-14 3:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-01-12 17:09 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-01-12 17:36 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-13 12:18 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-01-13 12:44 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-13 14:17 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-01-13 14:32 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-13 14:53 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-01-13 18:17 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-01-13 17:58 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-01-12 12:21 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-01-12 12:46 ` Vishal Chourasia
2026-01-12 14:03 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-12 14:20 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-12 14:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-12 14:37 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-12 17:52 ` Vishal Chourasia
2026-01-12 14:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-12 18:00 ` Vishal Chourasia
2026-01-13 9:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-19 10:47 ` [PATCH] cpuhp: Expedite synchronize_rcu during SMT switch Vishal Chourasia
2026-01-19 11:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-19 13:45 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-01-19 14:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-19 14:45 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-19 14:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-27 17:48 ` Samir M
2026-01-29 7:05 ` Samir M
2026-02-03 6:31 ` Samir M
2026-01-19 10:54 ` [RESEND] " Vishal Chourasia
2026-01-18 11:38 ` [PATCH] cpuhp: Expedite synchronize_rcu during CPU hotplug operations Samir M
2026-01-19 5:18 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-19 13:53 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-01-19 21:10 ` joelagnelf
2026-02-02 8:46 ` Vishal Chourasia
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