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From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 07/26] mm/fbatch: LRU_NEXT_ACTIVATE bit to optimize folio_activate()
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2026 13:19:37 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5bd863e9-30a3-c01a-dc8c-c3802b864a6c@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <84fecd13-f1e4-7d40-94c9-963f5c2f7aee@google.com>

On Sat, 12 Sep 2026, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Sep 2026, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 09, 2026 at 02:55:41AM -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote:
...
> > > diff --git a/include/linux/mm_inline.h b/include/linux/mm_inline.h
> > > index 8420b1276535..8f5efadf9c7c 100644
> > > --- a/include/linux/mm_inline.h
> > > +++ b/include/linux/mm_inline.h
> > > @@ -346,6 +346,7 @@ static inline void folio_migrate_refs(struct folio *new, const struct folio *old
> > >  enum {
> > >  	LRU_NEXT_NEVER_TAIL = 0,	/* Used by a tail's compound_head */
> > >  	LRU_NEXT_BATCHED = 1,		/* Not used by any aligned pointer */
> > > +	LRU_NEXT_ACTIVATE,
> > >  	NR_LRU_NEXT_FLAGS
> > >  };
> > >  
> > > @@ -358,6 +359,9 @@ bool lru_add_del_folio(struct folio *folio)
> > >  	if (!(lru_next & BIT(LRU_NEXT_BATCHED)))
> > >  		return false;
> > >  
> > > +	if (lru_next & BIT(LRU_NEXT_ACTIVATE))
> > > +		folio_set_active(folio);
> > > +
> > >  	WRITE_ONCE(folio->lru.next, LIST_POISON1);
> > >  	/* BUG_ON(folio->lru_next & BIT(LRU_NEXT_BATCHED)); */
> > >  
> > > diff --git a/mm/folio.c b/mm/folio.c
> > > index a18d8ef6afd5..0b75c3b69d5a 100644
> > > --- a/mm/folio.c
> > > +++ b/mm/folio.c
> > > @@ -256,15 +256,32 @@ static void lru_activate(struct lruvec *lruvec, struct folio *folio)
> > >  
> > >  void folio_activate(struct folio *folio)
> > >  {
> > > +	unsigned long lru_next;
> > > +
> > >  	if (folio_test_active(folio) || folio_test_unevictable(folio) ||
> > >  	    !folio_test_lru(folio))
> > >  		return;
> > >  
> > >  	/*
> > > -	 * XXX: It is curiously difficult to recreate safely the old
> > > -	 * __lru_cache_activate_folio() optimization (folio_set_active()
> > > -	 * directly if it's on the local lru_add fbatch): revisit later.
> > > +	 * This optimization is intended for the common case of folio
> > > +	 * having been recently added to this CPU's lru_add fbatch.
> > > +	 * But since other CPUs can now take it at any instant (after
> > > +	 * a folio_test_clear_lru()), and we may be migrated to another
> > > +	 * CPU, it is simplest just to extend the optimization to all CPUs.
> > > +	 *
> > > +	 * folio_set_active() would be unsafe without the lruvec lock, and
> > > +	 * a folio_test_clear_lru() here might cause a racing drain of the
> > > +	 * lru_add fbatch to skip its lru_add(): so use try_cmpxchg().
> > >  	 */
> > > +	lru_next = READ_ONCE(folio->lru_next);
> > > +	while (lru_next & BIT(LRU_NEXT_BATCHED)) {
> > > +		if (lru_next & BIT(LRU_NEXT_ACTIVATE))
> > > +			return;
> > > +		if (try_cmpxchg(&folio->lru_next, &lru_next,
> > > +				lru_next | BIT(LRU_NEXT_ACTIVATE)))
> > > +			return;
> > 
> > Hm. What prevents the folio from becoming unevictable under us here?
> > I don't see anything.
> > 
> > __folio_add_lru() wouldn't like it:
> > 
> > 	VM_BUG_ON_FOLIO(folio_test_active(folio) &&
> > 			folio_test_unevictable(folio), folio);
> > 
> > folio_lru_list() has the VM_BUG() too.
> 
> You're right, thank you. I thought I had deleted all such VM_BUG_ONs:
> and indeed I had, but only in a patch I later decided was too much for
> this series (removing PG_unevictable, using !folio_evictable() in some
> places, or folio_test_unevictable() testing another POISON in lru_next).
> 
> That excuse is not enough for this series! Yes, I must send a fixup,
> but not today.
> 
> > 
> > I am not sure what the right fix is.
> > 
> > Maybe lru_add_del_folio() should only call folio_set_active() on
> > !folio_test_unevictable() folios?

I was writing the commit message to a 7.1/26 fixup patch,
when I found I just could not describe any possible race here.

(And I was using your first suggestion, above: in the longer term I
prefer what I chose below, but decided it was better not to get into
that now: deleting various VM_BUG_ON_FOLIOs is better argued elsewhere.
There's another of them in folio_migrate_flags().)

folio_activate() has just checked !folio_test_unevictable(), so
it would have to be a race with something which sets the unevictable
flag on this folio at the same time as we find it's LRU_NEXT_BATCHED.

!folio_evictable() might become true at any instant,
but folio_test_unevictable()?

I cannot see what the racer could be: can you? I can see lru_add()
making it unevictable afterwards; and I can see folio migration
(successful or not) carrying unevictable forwards (or setting it
on a freshly allocated folio). But I cannot see any risky race
for folio_activate() or folio_mark_accessed() here.

Hugh

> > 
> > Or should we allow occasional active+unevictable
> 
> Yes, that's what I did, just removed the VM_BUG_ONs: but I'll need
> to check again whether that other patch also had to fix any ordering
> of checks. Offhand, probably not: once the "Unevictable LRU" became
> an oopsing fiction, it was important to check unevictable first:
> unevictable must take precedence, and then it really doesn't matter
> whether active is set or not.
> 
> > so if they are
> > munlocked, they will go directly to active list?
> 
> I didn't think of that, but I don't think that "active", set racily
> back when the folio was assigned "unevictable", bears much relation
> to whether it ought to be put on active or inactive list when later
> made evictable again. We should probably be consistent, and
> consistent with existing behaviour, that they go to inactive when
> made evictable. (I'm not looking at that other patch at present,
> I don't recall where active got cleared in it.)
> 
> Hugh

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-14 20:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-09  9:39 [PATCH v2 00/26] mm/fbatch: drain lru_add_drain() and _all() Hugh Dickins
2026-09-09  9:42 ` [PATCH v2 01/26] mm/fbatch: remove !CONFIG_SMP special case of folio_activate() Hugh Dickins
2026-09-09  9:44 ` [PATCH v2 02/26] mm/fbatch: allow folios_put_refs() to skip xa_is_value() entries Hugh Dickins
2026-09-09  9:46 ` [PATCH v2 03/26] mm/fbatch: temporarily disable lazyfree and mlock+munlock batching Hugh Dickins
2026-09-09  9:49 ` [PATCH v2 04/26] mm/fbatch: lru bit set, no extra ref, while folio on per-cpu fbatch Hugh Dickins
2026-09-09 12:25   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-09-12 19:30     ` Hugh Dickins
2026-09-09  9:51 ` [PATCH v2 05/26] mm/fbatch: lru_add_del_folio()+folio_add_lru() after clear_lru() Hugh Dickins
2026-09-09 15:04   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-09-12 21:59     ` Hugh Dickins
2026-09-09  9:53 ` [PATCH v2 06/26] mm/fbatch: fbatch_drain_lazyfree(onstack fbatch) before ptl unlock Hugh Dickins
2026-09-09 21:02   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-09-12 22:07     ` Hugh Dickins
2026-09-09  9:55 ` [PATCH v2 07/26] mm/fbatch: LRU_NEXT_ACTIVATE bit to optimize folio_activate() Hugh Dickins
2026-09-10 12:01   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-09-12 22:35     ` Hugh Dickins
2026-09-14 19:55       ` Hugh Dickins
2026-09-10 16:42   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-12 23:33     ` Hugh Dickins
2026-09-14 20:19       ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2026-09-15 13:08         ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-09  9:57 ` [PATCH v2 08/26] mm/fbatch: replace mlock_new_folio() by __folio_add_lru(,mlockit) Hugh Dickins
2026-09-10 17:47   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-09-09  9:59 ` [PATCH v2 09/26] mm/fbatch: restore mlock+munlock batching, without extra ref Hugh Dickins
2026-09-10 21:05   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-09-12 23:46     ` Hugh Dickins
2026-09-14  8:16       ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-09-09 10:01 ` [PATCH v2 10/26] mm/fbatch: remove several uses of mlock_drain_local() Hugh Dickins
2026-09-09 10:03 ` [PATCH v2 11/26] mm/fbatch: remove migration's PAGE_WAS_MLOCKED lru_add_drain() Hugh Dickins
2026-09-09 10:05 ` [PATCH v2 12/26] mm/fbatch: remove percpu_pvec_drained and folios_put() Hugh Dickins
2026-09-09 10:08 ` [PATCH v2 13/26] mm/fbatch: no lru_add_drain to collect_longterm_unpinnable_folios() Hugh Dickins
2026-09-09 10:10 ` [PATCH v2 14/26] mm/fbatch: no lru_add_drain() nor _all() for memfd_wait_for_pins() Hugh Dickins
2026-09-09 10:12 ` [PATCH v2 15/26] mm/fbatch: remove shake_folio() shake_page() from memory-failure Hugh Dickins
2026-09-09 10:14 ` [PATCH v2 16/26] mm/fbatch: remove lru_cache_disable() from NUMA folio migration Hugh Dickins
2026-09-09 10:16 ` [PATCH v2 17/26] mm/fbatch: no lru_cache_disable() in __alloc_contig_migrate_range() Hugh Dickins
2026-09-09 10:18 ` [PATCH v2 18/26] mm/fbatch: remove lru_add_drain() and _all() calls from various Hugh Dickins
2026-09-09 10:20 ` [PATCH v2 19/26] mm/fbatch: vm/stat_refresh include lru_add_drain() on each cpu Hugh Dickins
2026-09-09 10:23 ` [PATCH v2 20/26] s390/fbatch: no lru_add_drain_all() in s390_wiggle_split_folio() Hugh Dickins
2026-09-09 10:25 ` [PATCH v2 21/26] block/fbatch: no lru_add_drain_all() in invalidate_bdev() Hugh Dickins
2026-09-09 10:27 ` [PATCH v2 22/26] fs/fbatch: drop_caches invalidate_bh_lrus() not lru_add_drain_all() Hugh Dickins
2026-09-09 10:30 ` [PATCH v2 23/26] fs,mm/fbatch: use invalidate_bh_lrus() not invalidate_bh_lrus_cpu() Hugh Dickins
2026-09-09 10:33 ` [PATCH v2 24/26] fs,mm/fbatch: lru_cache_disable() keep off buffer_head lrus only Hugh Dickins
2026-09-09 10:35 ` [PATCH v2 25/26] mm/fbatch: move lru_add_drain_all() declaration to mm/internal.h Hugh Dickins
2026-09-09 10:37 ` [PATCH v2 26/26] mm/fbatch: drop reference inside the loop when draining Hugh Dickins
2026-09-09 10:41 ` [PATCH v2 27/26] mm/fbatch: paranoid folio vmstats in folio_batch_move_lru() Hugh Dickins

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