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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>, Lance Yang <ioworker0@gmail.com>,
	Vishal Moola <vishal.moola@gmail.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, zokeefe@google.com,
	ryan.roberts@arm.com, shy828301@gmail.com, mhocko@suse.com,
	fengwei.yin@intel.com, xiehuan09@gmail.com,
	wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com, songmuchun@bytedance.com,
	peterx@redhat.com, minchan@kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] mm/madvise: enhance lazyfreeing with mTHP in madvise_free
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 09:32:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5cc05529-eb80-410e-bc26-233b0ba0b21f@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4xREM-P1mFqeM-s3-cJ9czb6PXwizb-3hOhwaF6+QM5QA@mail.gmail.com>

On 07.03.24 09:10, Barry Song wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 9:00 PM Lance Yang <ioworker0@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Barry,
>>
>> Thanks for taking time to review!
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 3:00 PM Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 7:15 PM Lance Yang <ioworker0@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>> [...]
>>>> +static inline bool can_mark_large_folio_lazyfree(unsigned long addr,
>>>> +                                                struct folio *folio, pte_t *start_pte)
>>>> +{
>>>> +       int nr_pages = folio_nr_pages(folio);
>>>> +       fpb_t flags = FPB_IGNORE_DIRTY | FPB_IGNORE_SOFT_DIRTY;
>>>> +
>>>> +       for (int i = 0; i < nr_pages; i++)
>>>> +               if (page_mapcount(folio_page(folio, i)) != 1)

No new direct subpage mapcount users please if avoidable. Also, without 
holding the page lock this might be racy (did not stare at the bigger code).

>>>> +                       return false;
>>>
>>> we have moved to folio_estimated_sharers though it is not precise, so
>>> we don't do
>>> this check with lots of loops and depending on the subpage's mapcount.
>>
>> If we don't check the subpage’s mapcount, and there is a cow folio associated
>> with this folio and the cow folio has smaller size than this folio,
>> should we still
>> mark this folio as lazyfree?
> 
> I agree, this is true. However, we've somehow accepted the fact that
> folio_likely_mapped_shared
> can result in false negatives or false positives to balance the
> overhead.  So I really don't know :-)
> 
> Maybe David and Vishal can give some comments here.

Well, I did not accept the fact yet that folio_likely_mapped_shared() 
can give false negatives :)

So I've been working on a replacement [1], also in the context of 
removing the subpage mapcounts. But there is still a lot to resolve 
around that, first step being to introduce the total mapcount.

But independent of that, MADV_FREE is special (compared to 
MADV_DONTNEED), because we really have to make sure all page table 
mappings that map the folio will be covered here.

What could work for large folios is making sure that #ptes that map the 
folio here correspond to the folio_mapcount(). And folio_mapcount() 
should be called under folio lock, to avoid racing with swapout/migration.

So instead of checking each page_mapcount(), see how many PTEs you could 
batch, try taking the folio lock, and compare the number of batched PTEs 
against folio_mapcount(). If they match, we're good. if not, there is 
some other folio mapping somewhere else (other process, mremap).

folio_likely_mapped_shared() should still be used as an early exit point.

[1] 
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20231124132626.235350-1-david@redhat.com/T/#u

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-07  8:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-07  6:14 Lance Yang
2024-03-07  7:00 ` Barry Song
2024-03-07  8:00   ` Lance Yang
2024-03-07  8:10     ` Barry Song
2024-03-07  8:32       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-03-07  9:07       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-07  9:33         ` Barry Song
2024-03-07 10:50           ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-07 10:54             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-07 10:54               ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-07 11:13                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-07 11:17                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-07 14:41                     ` Lance Yang
2024-03-07 14:58                       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-07 15:08                         ` Lance Yang
2024-03-07 11:26                   ` Barry Song
2024-03-07 11:31                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-07 11:42                       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-07 11:45                         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-07 12:01                           ` Barry Song
2024-03-07 12:04                             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-07 16:31                             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-07 18:54                               ` Barry Song
2024-03-07 19:48                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-08 13:05                                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-08 13:27                                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-08 13:48                                     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-08 18:01                                   ` Barry Song
2024-03-11  9:55                                     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-11 10:01                                       ` Barry Song
2024-03-11 15:07         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-12 10:20           ` Lance Yang

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