From: Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>
To: Mukesh Ojha <mukesh.ojha@oss.qualcomm.com>
Cc: Bryan O'Donoghue <bryan.odonoghue@linaro.org>,
Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org>,
Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
Manivannan Sadhasivam <mani@kernel.org>,
Konrad Dybcio <konradybcio@kernel.org>,
linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-remoteproc@vger.kernel.org,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 00/14] Peripheral Image Loader support for Qualcomm SoCs running Linux host at EL2
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2025 12:33:47 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5dc2f787-56f7-44ca-89b2-754a0c46a1dd@oss.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251124064558.aaartbglgvcj7w5r@hu-mojha-hyd.qualcomm.com>
On 11/24/25 7:45 AM, Mukesh Ojha wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2025 at 04:08:36PM +0100, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
>> On 11/21/25 12:37 PM, Mukesh Ojha wrote:
>>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2025 at 11:27:57AM +0000, Bryan O'Donoghue wrote:
>>>> On 21/11/2025 11:01, Mukesh Ojha wrote:
>>>>> In May 2025, we discussed the challenges at Linaro Connect 2025 [1]
>>>>> related to Secure PAS remoteproc enablement when Linux is running at EL2
>>>>> for Qualcomm SoCs.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://resources.linaro.org/en/resource/sF8jXifdb9V1mUefdbfafa
>>>>>
>>>>> Below, is the summary of the discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Qualcomm is working to enable remote processors on the SA8775p SoC with
>>>>> a Linux host running at EL2. In doing so, it has encountered several
>>>>> challenges related to how the remoteproc framework is handled when Linux
>>>>> runs at EL1.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the main challenges arises from differences in how IOMMU
>>>>> translation is currently managed on SoCs running the Qualcomm EL2
>>>>> hypervisor (QHEE), where IOMMU translation for any device is entirely
>>>>> owned by the hypervisor. Additionally, the firmware for remote
>>>>> processors does not contain a resource table, which would typically
>>>>> include the necessary IOMMU configuration settings.
>>>>>
>>>>> Qualcomm SoCs running with QHEE (EL2) have been utilizing the Peripheral
>>>>> Authentication Service (PAS) from TrustZone (TZ) firmware to securely
>>>>> authenticate and reset remote processors via a single SMC call,
>>>>> _auth_and_reset_. This call is first trapped by QHEE, which then invokes
>>>>> TZ for authentication. Once authentication is complete, the call returns
>>>>> to QHEE, which sets up the IOMMU translation scheme for the remote
>>>>> processors and subsequently brings them out of reset. The design of the
>>>>> Qualcomm EL2 hypervisor dictates that the Linux host OS running at EL1
>>>>> is not permitted to configure IOMMU translation for remote processors,
>>>>> and only a single-stage translation is configured.
>>>>>
>>>>> To make the remote processor bring-up (PAS) sequence
>>>>> hypervisor-independent, the auth_and_reset SMC call is now handled
>>>>> entirely by TZ. However, the issue of IOMMU configuration remains
>>>>> unresolved, for example a scenario, when KVM host at EL2 has no
>>>>> knowledge of the remote processors’ IOMMU settings. This is being
>>>>> addressed by overlaying the IOMMU properties when the SoC runs a Linux
>>>>> host at EL2. SMC call is being provided from the TrustZone firmware to
>>>>> retrieve the resource table for a given subsystem.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are also remote processors such as those for video, camera, and
>>>>> graphics that do not use the remoteproc framework to manage their
>>>>> lifecycle. Instead, they rely on the Qualcomm PAS service to
>>>>> authenticate their firmware. These processors also need to be brought
>>>>> out of reset when Linux is running at EL2. The client drivers for these
>>>>> processors use the MDT loader function to load and authenticate
>>>>> firmware. Similar to the Qualcomm remoteproc PAS driver, they also need
>>>>> to retrieve the resource table, create a shared memory bridge
>>>>> (shmbridge), and map the resources before bringing the processors out of
>>>>> reset.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is based on next-20251120 and tested on SA8775p which is now called
>>>>> Lemans IOT platform and does not addresses DMA problem discussed at
>>>>> [1] which is future scope of the series.
>>>>>
>>>>> Changes in v8: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20251113-kvm-rproc-v7-v7-0-df4910b7c20a@oss.qualcomm.com/
>>>>> - Addressed suggestion from Stephen which was regarding commit message(9/14),
>>>>> debug log(12/14) suggestion, and return type change(4/14).
>>>>> - Added R-b tag on 10/14 .
>>>> Sorry.
>>>>
>>>> Did we actually come up with a cogent reason to omit the video firmware
>>>> loading here ?
>>>>
>>>> AFAIU it is required for Lemans and Glymur - leaving it out is blocking
>>>> getting video stuff done and storing up trouble.
>>>>
>>>> What exactly is the blockage - is it something you want help with ?
>>>
>>> I replied to you here[1] and given my reason..till something concluded on
>>> "multi-cell IOMMU[2]", I can not add video and block what is working
>>> already.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20251105081421.f6j7ks5bd4dfgr67@hu-mojha-hyd.qualcomm.com/
>>>
>>> [2]
>>> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/cover.1762235099.git.charan.kalla@oss.qualcomm.com/
>>
>> I see that the following files call qcom_scm_pas_auth_.*():
>>
>> drivers/firmware/qcom/qcom_scm.c
>> drivers/gpu/drm/msm/adreno/adreno_gpu.c
>> drivers/media/platform/qcom/iris/iris_firmware.c
>> drivers/media/platform/qcom/venus/firmware.c
>> drivers/net/ipa/ipa_main.c
>> drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath12k/ahb.c
>> drivers/remoteproc/qcom_q6v5_pas.c
>> drivers/remoteproc/qcom_wcnss.c
>>
>> iris is difficult, rproc is done, adreno doesn't need it..
>>
>> would ath12k_ahb or IPA be affected by this series as well?
>
> Yes, they would be affected, and the modem as well, when Linux is
> running at EL2. However, I do not see them present in any of the QLi and
> targeted compute SoCs at the moment. Therefore, our firmware does not
> support it yet.
Hamoa's little brother should have ath12k_ahb.. and I assume IPA is
present on at least some platforms where there's a modem (QCM6490?)
Konrad
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-24 11:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-21 11:01 Mukesh Ojha
2025-11-21 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 01/14] dt-bindings: remoteproc: qcom,pas: Add iommus property Mukesh Ojha
2025-11-21 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 02/14] firmware: qcom_scm: Remove redundant piece of code Mukesh Ojha
2025-11-21 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 03/14] firmware: qcom_scm: Rename peripheral as pas_id Mukesh Ojha
2025-11-21 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 04/14] firmware: qcom_scm: Introduce PAS context initialization helper function Mukesh Ojha
2025-12-05 22:45 ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-11-21 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 05/14] remoteproc: pas: Replace metadata context with PAS context structure Mukesh Ojha
2025-11-21 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 06/14] soc: qcom: mdtloader: Add PAS context aware qcom_mdt_pas_load() function Mukesh Ojha
2025-11-21 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 07/14] soc: qcom: mdtloader: Remove qcom_mdt_pas_init() from exported symbols Mukesh Ojha
2025-11-21 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 08/14] firmware: qcom_scm: Add a prep version of auth_and_reset function Mukesh Ojha
2025-12-05 22:50 ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-11-21 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 09/14] firmware: qcom_scm: Refactor qcom_scm_pas_init_image() Mukesh Ojha
2025-11-21 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 10/14] firmware: qcom_scm: Add SHM bridge handling for PAS when running without QHEE Mukesh Ojha
2025-11-21 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 11/14] firmware: qcom_scm: Add qcom_scm_pas_get_rsc_table() to get resource table Mukesh Ojha
2025-11-24 11:48 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-11-24 15:25 ` Mukesh Ojha
2025-12-03 12:36 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-12-04 12:28 ` Mukesh Ojha
2025-12-05 13:15 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-12-05 22:17 ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-12-08 17:01 ` Mukesh Ojha
2025-12-17 13:09 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-12-05 22:21 ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-12-08 14:25 ` Mukesh Ojha
2025-12-05 22:40 ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-12-08 16:49 ` Mukesh Ojha
2025-12-09 10:45 ` Mukesh Ojha
2025-12-18 14:37 ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-11-21 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 12/14] remoteproc: pas: Extend parse_fw callback to fetch resources via SMC call Mukesh Ojha
2025-11-24 11:20 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-11-21 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 13/14] remoteproc: qcom: pas: Enable Secure PAS support with IOMMU managed by Linux Mukesh Ojha
2025-11-24 11:31 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-11-24 12:03 ` Mukesh Ojha
2025-11-26 16:40 ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-11-27 7:23 ` Mukesh Ojha
2025-11-21 11:01 ` [PATCH v8 14/14] arm64: dts: qcom: Add EL2 overlay for Lemans Mukesh Ojha
2025-12-05 23:00 ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-12-08 14:21 ` Mukesh Ojha
2025-11-21 11:27 ` [PATCH v8 00/14] Peripheral Image Loader support for Qualcomm SoCs running Linux host at EL2 Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-11-21 11:37 ` Mukesh Ojha
2025-11-21 15:08 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-11-24 6:45 ` Mukesh Ojha
2025-11-24 11:33 ` Konrad Dybcio [this message]
2025-11-24 15:53 ` Mukesh Ojha
2025-11-27 10:25 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-12-02 8:36 ` Mukesh Ojha
2025-12-02 10:13 ` Vikash Garodia
2025-12-02 21:24 ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-12-03 5:18 ` Vikash Garodia
2025-12-05 21:18 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-12-17 10:08 ` Vikash Garodia
2025-12-17 11:43 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-12-18 4:32 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-12-18 14:07 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-12-18 14:45 ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-12-05 21:45 ` Bjorn Andersson
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