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From: "Chuck Lever" <cel@kernel.org>
To: tmenninger@purestorage.com
Cc: "Trond Myklebust" <trondmy@kernel.org>,
	"Anna Schumaker" <anna@kernel.org>, "Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
	"Lai Jiangshan" <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Eric Badger" <ebadger@everpuredata.com>,
	"Jon Curley" <jcurley@everpuredata.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 6/8] SUNRPC: Reduce rpciod workqueue contention
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2026 12:40:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <611738b5-e115-4531-8d08-62607dc7f8ff@slotpi15m67> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260913131354.1026639-1-tmenninger@purestorage.com>

On Sun, 13 Sep 2026, Tim Menninger wrote:
>                         unpinned       node0 pinned
>     free_fastpath:     +49,161,373    +119,680,629
>     free_slowpath:     +70,391,872          +8,999
>     sheaf_flush:        +1,582,440     +13,436,760
>     barn_put:             +673,877      +1,596,175
>     barn_put_fail:         +26,374        +223,950
>     barn_get:             +673,860      +1,596,219
>     barn_get_fail:      +1,199,576        +224,090
>     alloc_slowpath:              0               0
>
> So free_slowpath does in fact drop essentially to zero when allocation
> and completion/freeing are kept on the same NUMA node.

Thanks, that settles the remote-free question.


> The dominant slab lock was still heavily contended in that run.
> Filtering it by caller gave:
>
>     2,907,948   __slab_free+0x126
>       269,174   get_partial_node_bulk+0x9c
>       175,965   __refill_objects_node+0x4d0

Set beside the unpinned profile from your Sep 12 mail:

                            unpinned    node0 pinned
    __slab_free            2,845,710       2,907,948
    get_partial_node_bulk    318,458         269,174
    __refill_objects_node    181,842         175,965

The lock profile did not move. free_slowpath fell by four orders
of magnitude and __slab_free took list_lock just as often. So the
list_lock contention is not the remote frees, and it never was!

The counters show where it comes from instead. sheaf_flush rose to
13,436,760 objects, and 13,436,760 / 60 = 223,946, which is your
barn_put_fail. That is the barn-full path in free_to_pcs: once the
node's barn holds MAX_FULL_SHEAVES (10) full sheaves, a put fails,
the spare sheaf is flushed through sheaf_flush_unused and
__kmem_cache_free_bulk, and __slab_free takes list_lock for each
slab in the flush. That route never increments FREE_SLOWPATH,
which is why the counter went quiet while the lock did not. It is
also why sheaf_flush_unused and __kmem_cache_free_bulk never
appeared as callers: perf lock charges the acquisition to
__slab_free on both routes.

barn_get_fail matches barn_put_fail almost exactly, and barn_get
matches barn_put. The barn is a bounded buffer between the CPUs
that allocate nfs_page objects and the rpciod CPUs that free them,
and about 12% of the time it is over- or underflowing.

So the cross-node placement adds roughly 2-4 GB/s of penalty, some
of which is node 0 itself (45 vs 46-47 with balanced CQs), while
the lock profile is unchanged. That points at the per-object cost
of 70M individual remote __slab_free calls, not at list_lock
queueing.

Three numbers you likely already have on disk would help clarify
this... no new runs needed:

- Total and average wait for the list_lock address in the pinned
  run. The unpinned run showed 5.05 min and 90 us average; if the
  pinned run is similar, the lock absorbs the same time whichever
  way the frees go.
- mpstat idle for node 0 in both runs, to tell whether that wait
  is idle time being spent or throughput being lost.
- Throughput for the node 0 / node 0 run that produced the counter
  table above. It is the one configuration missing from your
  throughput table.


-- 
Chuck Lever (Come to NFS bake-a-thon! https://nfsv4bat.org)

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-13 16:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-31 18:21 [PATCH RFC 0/8] Reduce lock contention in the NFS client Chuck Lever
2026-08-31 18:21 ` [PATCH RFC 1/8] SUNRPC: Use atomic_t for XID allocation Chuck Lever
2026-08-31 18:21 ` [PATCH RFC 2/8] SUNRPC: Execute initial async RPC states in caller's context Chuck Lever
2026-08-31 18:21 ` [PATCH RFC 3/8] SUNRPC: Split recv_lock out of xprt->queue_lock Chuck Lever
2026-08-31 18:22 ` [PATCH RFC 4/8] Set WQ_SYSFS on key NFS-related workqueues Chuck Lever
2026-08-31 18:22 ` [PATCH RFC 5/8] workqueue: Export the functions needed for WQ attribute modification Chuck Lever
2026-08-31 18:22 ` [PATCH RFC 6/8] SUNRPC: Reduce rpciod workqueue contention Chuck Lever
2026-09-02 20:40   ` Tim Menninger
2026-09-03 13:33     ` Chuck Lever
2026-09-03 23:50       ` Tim Menninger
2026-09-04 14:13         ` Chuck Lever
2026-09-04 23:23           ` Tim Menninger
2026-09-06 16:21             ` Chuck Lever
2026-09-08 18:19               ` tmenninger
2026-09-08 21:11                 ` Chuck Lever
2026-09-08 23:39                   ` tmenninger
2026-09-09 16:14                     ` Chuck Lever
2026-09-12 14:59                       ` tmenninger
2026-09-12 15:49                         ` Chuck Lever
2026-09-13 13:13                           ` tmenninger
2026-09-13 16:40                             ` Chuck Lever [this message]
2026-09-14 17:39                               ` tmenninger
2026-09-15 14:42                                 ` Chuck Lever
2026-09-16 23:25                                   ` Tim Menninger
2026-08-31 18:22 ` [PATCH RFC 7/8] NFS: Reduce nfsiod " Chuck Lever
2026-08-31 18:22 ` [PATCH RFC 8/8] SUNRPC: Reduce xprtiod " Chuck Lever

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