From: "Paul Menage" <menage@google.com>
To: vatsa@in.ibm.com
Cc: sekharan@us.ibm.com, ckrm-tech@lists.sourceforge.net,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xemul@sw.ru,
containers@lists.osdl.org, pj@sgi.com,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
mbligh@google.com, winget@google.com, rohitseth@google.com,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
dev@sw.ru, devel@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [ckrm-tech] [PATCH 7/7] containers (V7): Container interface to nsproxy subsystem
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 07:13:37 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6599ad830704050713h34752b1cted9dbe1ff7ab8bec@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070405124325.GA13822@in.ibm.com>
On 4/5/07, Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com> wrote:
> > If the container directory were to have no refcount on the nsproxy, so
> > the initial refcount was 0,
>
> No it should be 1.
>
> mkdir H1/foo
> rcfs_create()
> ns = dup_namespaces(parent);
>
> ....
> dentry->d_fsdata = ns;
>
> ns should have a refcount of 1 to begin with.
Right - that's my point, you're effectively passing the initial
refcount of the nsproxy to the container directory's d_fsdata
reference.
>
> - refcount of a nsproxy attached to a directory dentry can never
> fall to zero because of tasks coming in and out. The only
> way for the refcount of such nsproxies to fall to zero and
> hence trigger their destruction is thr' the rmdir i/f.
>
> - New nsproxies derived from the base directory nsproxy
> can have their's refcount go to zero as tasks exit or move
> around and hence they will be destroyed.
>
> Does that sound like correct behavior?
Sounds good.
>
> > Possibly - there are two choices:
> >
> > 1) expose a refcount to them directly, and just interrogate the
> > refcount from the generic code to see if it's safe to delete the
> > directory
> >
> > 2) have a can_destroy() callback with well defined semantics about
> > when it's safe to take refcounts again - it's quite possible that one
> > subsystem can return true from can_destroy() but others don't, in
> > which case the subsystem can become active again.
>
> Lets go back to the f_bc example here for a moment. Lets say T1 was in C1 and
> opened file f1. f1->f_bc points to C1->beancounter.
>
> T1 moves from C1 -> C2, but f1 is not migrated.
> C1->beancounter.count stays at 1 (to account for f1->f_bc).
>
> File f1 is closed. C1->beancounter.count becomes zero.
>
> Now user issues rmdir C1. If rmdir finds (after taking manage_mutex that
> is)
>
> - zero tasks in C1
> - zero refcount in C1->beancounter
>
> why is it not safe to assume that C1->beancounter.count will continue to
> stay zero?
>
> Basically I am struggling to answer "How can a zero refcount (beancounter)
> object go non-zero when zero tasks are attached to it" ..
In that case, I think you're fine. Your last posted patches didn't
provide a way to check for that, though, as far as I could see.
Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-05 14:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 132+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-02-12 8:15 [PATCH 0/7] containers (V7): Generic Process Containers menage
2007-02-12 8:15 ` [PATCH 1/7] containers (V7): Generic container system abstracted from cpusets code menage
2007-02-12 12:33 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-12 19:26 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-12 19:46 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-13 5:48 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-13 8:16 ` [ckrm-tech] " Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-03-07 12:21 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-03-07 14:06 ` [ckrm-tech] " Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-03-07 20:50 ` Paul Menage
2007-03-08 10:38 ` [ckrm-tech] " Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-03-08 10:40 ` Paul Menage
2007-03-11 19:38 ` Paul Jackson
2007-03-12 14:19 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-03-22 9:56 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-03-22 10:20 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-03-24 15:05 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-03-24 19:25 ` Paul Jackson
2007-03-25 0:45 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-03-25 1:41 ` Paul Jackson
2007-03-25 2:28 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-03-25 4:16 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-03-25 5:43 ` Paul Jackson
2007-03-25 8:21 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-03-25 4:45 ` Paul Jackson
2007-03-25 5:05 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-03-25 4:59 ` Paul Jackson
2007-02-12 8:15 ` [PATCH 2/7] containers (V7): Cpusets hooked into containers menage
2007-02-15 20:35 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-02-15 20:49 ` Paul Menage
2007-03-07 14:34 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-03-07 16:01 ` Paul Menage
2007-03-07 16:31 ` [ckrm-tech] " Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-03-07 16:31 ` Paul Menage
2007-03-07 14:52 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-03-07 16:12 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-12 8:15 ` [PATCH 4/7] containers (V7): Simple CPU accounting container subsystem menage
2007-02-12 8:15 ` [PATCH 5/7] containers (V7): Resource Groups over generic containers menage
2007-02-12 8:15 ` [PATCH 6/7] containers (V7): BeanCounters over generic process containers menage
2007-02-12 15:34 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-12 18:49 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-13 8:52 ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-02-13 9:03 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-13 9:18 ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-02-13 9:37 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-13 9:49 ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-02-12 8:15 ` [PATCH 7/7] containers (V7): Container interface to nsproxy subsystem menage
2007-03-24 5:05 ` [ckrm-tech] " Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-03-24 16:23 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-03-26 21:57 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-03-28 14:55 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-03-28 15:26 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-03-26 21:55 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-03-31 2:47 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-02 14:09 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-04-02 14:27 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-02 18:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-03 14:16 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-03 15:32 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-04-03 15:45 ` Paul Menage
2007-04-03 15:54 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-04-03 16:16 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-03 16:26 ` Kirill Korotaev
2007-04-03 16:46 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-03 16:52 ` Paul Menage
2007-04-03 17:11 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-03 17:10 ` Paul Menage
2007-04-03 17:30 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-03 17:30 ` Paul Menage
2007-04-03 17:51 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-03 17:49 ` Paul Menage
2007-04-04 3:07 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-04 3:44 ` Paul Jackson
2007-04-04 4:04 ` Paul Menage
2007-04-04 5:15 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-04 7:00 ` Paul Menage
2007-04-04 17:26 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-04 17:42 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-04 18:57 ` Paul Menage
2007-04-04 23:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-05 1:35 ` Paul Menage
2007-04-05 1:37 ` Paul Menage
2007-04-05 16:57 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-05 17:14 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-06 21:54 ` Paul Menage
2007-04-05 2:57 ` Paul Menage
2007-04-05 6:39 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-05 6:46 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-05 6:48 ` Paul Menage
2007-04-05 8:49 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-05 9:29 ` Paul Menage
2007-04-05 12:43 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-05 14:13 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-05 14:13 ` Paul Menage [this message]
2007-04-05 14:46 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-03 17:34 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-03 17:29 ` Paul Menage
2007-04-03 16:10 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-03 15:41 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-02-12 9:18 ` [PATCH 0/7] containers (V7): Generic Process Containers Paul Jackson
2007-02-12 9:32 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-12 9:52 ` Paul Jackson
[not found] ` <20070212085104.485337000@menage.corp.google.com>
2007-02-12 15:27 ` [PATCH 3/7] containers (V7): Add generic multi-subsystem API to containers Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-12 18:40 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-13 13:19 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-15 1:17 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-12 15:39 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-02-12 15:56 ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-02-12 18:31 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-14 8:49 ` Balbir Singh
2007-03-08 17:52 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-03-24 12:51 ` [ckrm-tech] " Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-12 22:38 ` [PATCH 0/7] containers (V7): Generic Process Containers Sam Vilain
2007-02-12 22:47 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-02-12 23:18 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-12 23:15 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-13 0:30 ` Sam Vilain
2007-02-13 0:42 ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2007-02-13 1:13 ` Sam Vilain
2007-02-13 1:47 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-20 17:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-20 17:55 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-20 19:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-20 22:47 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-20 23:08 ` Sam Vilain
2007-02-20 23:36 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-20 23:32 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-02-20 21:58 ` Sam Vilain
2007-02-20 22:19 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-20 22:58 ` Sam Vilain
2007-02-20 23:28 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-20 23:37 ` Serge E. Hallyn
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