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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
To: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Cc: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, John Stoffel <john@stoffel.org>
Subject: Re: I give up
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 16:33:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6624.1176150799@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 09 Apr 2007 16:08:34 EDT." <461A9D42.9000008@garzik.org>

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On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 16:08:34 EDT, Jeff Garzik said:
> With current hard drive prices (200GB @ US$55, 500GB @ US$120) you can 
> just keep buying hard drives :)
> 
> Surely tape price/GB is higher than hard drive price/GB...

Erm. No.  We're in the middle of installing an StorageTek SL8500 for backups,
simply because an LTO3 tape holds 300G at a price point of $100 or so.
And there's no sane way to build a half-petabyte disk farm at that price.
(And yes, our tape backup service is well into the half-petabyte range, and
will probably shoot over that as soon as the SL8500 is in production and we
deal with all the backlogged requests for backup service).

Don't forget to factor in the cost of disk shelves, power, cooling, and all
that when you're building something to hold 2,500 200G drives.  Oh. and
controllers.  And machines to put the controllers in... and all the rest of it.

And remember - you *dont* want to be backing up critical data on the sort of
hard drives that cost $55 for 200G - you'll want multiple copies, probably
some RAID, etc etc.  

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-09 20:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-09 14:07 Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 14:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-09 15:37   ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 16:49     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-09 17:03       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-09 18:36         ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 19:38         ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 21:35           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-09 22:22             ` Dave Dillow
2007-04-10  1:27               ` Dave Jones
2007-04-10  1:40                 ` Dave Dillow
2007-04-10  2:01                   ` Dave Jones
2007-04-10  7:12                   ` Olaf Hering
2007-04-10  7:51                     ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10  8:19                       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-10 16:08                       ` Olaf Hering
2007-04-10 17:29                         ` David Lang
2007-04-10 16:14                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-11  3:54                         ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-11 15:39                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-11 15:51                             ` John Stoffel
2007-04-11 19:29                               ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-11 20:27                                 ` John Stoffel
2007-04-11 21:16                                   ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-11 21:26                                     ` John Stoffel
2007-04-11 19:27                             ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10  7:53                     ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10 12:24                       ` John Anthony Kazos Jr.
2007-04-10 20:45                         ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10 19:05                       ` Phillip Susi
2007-04-11  4:01                         ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-11 14:46                           ` Phillip Susi
2007-04-11 15:07                             ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-11 15:12                             ` John Anthony Kazos Jr.
2007-04-11 16:43                               ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-04-11 17:03                                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-10  3:47                 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10  3:41             ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 17:11     ` John Stoffel
2007-04-09 19:49       ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 20:08         ` John Stoffel
2007-04-09 20:11           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-09 20:08         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-09 20:32           ` Ralf Baechle
2007-04-09 20:44             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-09 20:51               ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-09 20:33           ` Valdis.Kletnieks [this message]
2007-04-09 20:47             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-10  3:34           ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10  3:38             ` John Stoffel
2007-04-10  6:50             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-10  6:59             ` CaT
2007-04-10 17:52             ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-11  3:57               ` Gene Heskett

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