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From: Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>
To: "John Anthony Kazos Jr." <jakj@j-a-k-j.com>
Cc: Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>,
	Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Olaf Hering <olaf@aepfle.de>,
	Dave Dillow <dave@thedillows.org>, Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Subject: Re: I give up
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 18:43:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3mz1e275x.fsf@maximus.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.0.83.0704111109390.13251@sigma.j-a-k-j.com> (John Anthony Kazos, Jr.'s message of "Wed, 11 Apr 2007 11:12:19 -0400 (EDT)")

"John Anthony Kazos Jr." <jakj@j-a-k-j.com> writes:

> I think that's especially true. If a user begins with a single full disk 
> for their entire filesystem, uses tar to backup, and then later adds a 
> second disk, copies everything from /usr and /home onto partitions there 
> (making sure to preserve all interesting bits like ctime/mtime), and 
> mounts them over the original directories, tar should not decide that 
> every file in /usr and /home was deleted and recreated.

That wouldn't work, even if you managed to copy ctime, the target
inode number will be different than the original and backup has
to assume it's a different file.

For filesystems with no stable inode numbers my backup scheme
assumes that the same file = the same name and times but it's
really fragile.

An option to ignore block device number does make sense, of course.
Especially when backing up only one filesystem (-xdev etc).
-- 
Krzysztof Halasa

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-11 16:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-09 14:07 Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 14:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-09 15:37   ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 16:49     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-09 17:03       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-09 18:36         ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 19:38         ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 21:35           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-09 22:22             ` Dave Dillow
2007-04-10  1:27               ` Dave Jones
2007-04-10  1:40                 ` Dave Dillow
2007-04-10  2:01                   ` Dave Jones
2007-04-10  7:12                   ` Olaf Hering
2007-04-10  7:51                     ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10  8:19                       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-10 16:08                       ` Olaf Hering
2007-04-10 17:29                         ` David Lang
2007-04-10 16:14                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-11  3:54                         ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-11 15:39                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-11 15:51                             ` John Stoffel
2007-04-11 19:29                               ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-11 20:27                                 ` John Stoffel
2007-04-11 21:16                                   ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-11 21:26                                     ` John Stoffel
2007-04-11 19:27                             ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10  7:53                     ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10 12:24                       ` John Anthony Kazos Jr.
2007-04-10 20:45                         ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10 19:05                       ` Phillip Susi
2007-04-11  4:01                         ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-11 14:46                           ` Phillip Susi
2007-04-11 15:07                             ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-11 15:12                             ` John Anthony Kazos Jr.
2007-04-11 16:43                               ` Krzysztof Halasa [this message]
2007-04-11 17:03                                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-10  3:47                 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10  3:41             ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 17:11     ` John Stoffel
2007-04-09 19:49       ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 20:08         ` John Stoffel
2007-04-09 20:11           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-09 20:08         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-09 20:32           ` Ralf Baechle
2007-04-09 20:44             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-09 20:51               ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-09 20:33           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-09 20:47             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-10  3:34           ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10  3:38             ` John Stoffel
2007-04-10  6:50             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-10  6:59             ` CaT
2007-04-10 17:52             ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-11  3:57               ` Gene Heskett

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