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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: "zhangzekun (A)" <zhangzekun11@huawei.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: <dan.j.williams@intel.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>, <regressions@lists.linux.dev>,
	<tj@kernel.org>, <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	<chenjun102@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: Possible hungtask issue will be introduced with device_lock() in uevent_show()
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2025 18:07:27 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6791a45f711e2_9b922948@dwillia2-mobl3.amr.corp.intel.com.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7b599394-d1a1-4e13-9c5c-48321172ec65@huawei.com>

zhangzekun (A) wrote:
> 
> 
> 在 2024/12/31 16:26, Greg KH 写道:
> > On Tue, Dec 31, 2024 at 03:56:08PM +0800, Zhang Zekun wrote:
> >> Hi, Dan, Greg,
> >>
> >> We have found a potential tungtask issue has been introduce by commit 9a71892cbcdb ("Revert "driver core: Fix uevent_show() vs driver detach race""), which revert the rcu in device_uevent but reintroduce the device_lock() in uevent_show(). The reproduce procedure is quite simple:
> > 
> > The revert just puts the original logic back in place, so this is not
> > anything new that has been introduced, right?  It's just that the
> > attempted fix didn't work, so a different fix needs to happen.
> Hi, Greg,
> 
> Yes, there is nothing new introduced here. We have been testing the rcu 
> fix (commit 15fffc6a5624 ("driver core: Fix uevent_show() vs driver 
> detach race")) for monthes but has not obersved problems.

Hi Zekun,

If you have some cycles to help investigate the replacement fix that
would be much appreciated.

So far I came up with this:

http://lore.kernel.org/172790598832.1168608.4519484276671503678.stgit@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com

...but have not had time to debug the 0day report.

My worry is still that Linux has long since shipped the expectation that
reading 'uevent' bounces the device_lock() which, among other things,
makes sure that any in-flight driver probing has completed.

The report of USB devices disappearing is consistent with a udev
operation failing due to the driver not being done attaching, or
something similar.

So even though you have not seen any issues, I suspect small differences
in the devices on your system and the reporter's system, or udev rule
differences could result in a failure to trigger the regression.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-01-23  2:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-02 21:54 [PATCH v2] driver core: Fix userspace expectations of uevent_show() as a probe barrier Dan Williams
2024-10-07  9:39 ` kernel test robot
2024-10-08  0:26 ` Dan Williams
2024-10-13 15:00   ` Greg KH
2024-10-28  9:08   ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-10-28 22:57     ` Dan Williams
2024-10-29  0:21       ` Greg KH
2024-12-31  7:56 ` Possible hungtask issue will be introduced with device_lock() in uevent_show() Zhang Zekun
2024-12-31  8:26   ` Greg KH
2025-01-04  6:02     ` zhangzekun (A)
2025-01-04  8:14       ` Greg KH
2025-01-23  2:07       ` Dan Williams [this message]
2025-01-27  3:27         ` zhangzekun (A)

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